Dulwich Hill Bicycle Club

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Didn't really think he was serious, but it seemed to be the best idea so far.

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The RNP for me is a real challenge, that is the Waterfall in Audley out, I;ve been told the Waterfall exit is even harder. I think the Audley exit is harder, even though it's shorter, it's also steeper especially at the bottom and more consistant, while waterfall exit flattens out for a while with ...

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I think Huw has the best idea, i was thinking some sort of bke lighting rack, but just couldn't work it out, and didn't really think there was a place for it on a bike.

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I've entered now, had an issue with getting my credit card to work at first, but seems fine now. Looks like it's just You(Kieran), Me, and Eugen. Phil from North Sydney is also going down, and it looks like a lot of his clubmates are too. I'll have a chat to Eugen again tomorrow, and we can start to...

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I've only got 11-23 and it should be fine, though it depends on your climbing style. My issue at the moment is trying to find some form, but hopefully my legs will start to come good over the next few days, so they can work well in Bright. Anyway, the hills are much longer than RNP, and even C-grade...

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Just a reminder, entries close on monday. I'm going even if my legs won't work it seems, but hopefully i'll get them kickstarted.

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shimano doesn't have a compact front derailleur, and i find they're a waste of time anyway, as a normal front derailleur will work fine, the only situation it may not is when the mount is fixed and doesn't provide for a large enough range in adjustment to get sufficient drop to the compact chainring...

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What are the dimensions?

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I'm guessing the guy is in Chatswood, but the hub is sent from Japan.

I've got the 7600 hubs on my track wheels, and they roll really well, so i'm sure the 7700 will be just as good, only without the large flanges.

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You can get some nice dura-ace track hubs from here http://stores.ebay.com.au/Buy-direct-fr ... idZ2QQtZkm
Price seems reasonable to me, as does postage.

You can probably get something for half the price though.....

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Sounds like fun, but you'd have to let me know a few weeks before so i can make myself available.

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They've got some good stuff, but it really comes down to what you require at the time. Once you know what you want to order you work out where's the best place to buy it. Always good to keep a nice selection in your favourites.

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If anyone's interested in joining me, i'm planning to go through the RNP tomorrow 11th November. I'll be leaving at 6am and will probably meet the bunch at Waterfall for the ride back.

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Probably not much more to remove, apart from the bearings that are usually in the freewheel body. Once i get around to buying some cone wrenches i'll take a good look inside.

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I wasn't suggesting pulling the freewheel itself apart, just removing the freewheel body to get to the freewheel mechanism, and clean and grease that, though it sounds like the oil may have done the job to get into the freehub and wash some gunk out. After a bit of searching, forget what i just said...

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The Niobium rims are labled as many different things. Seem to be made by Kinlin in Taiwan. Can be found here http://fairwheelbikes.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=24&zenid=77f6553b5b2b1e8148153532701814b9 here http://oddsandendos.safeshopper.com/9/cat9.htm?284 here http://www.interlocrac...

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Niobium rims are 30mm deep like the Deep V's, plus you get a weight savings. They're usually available in 16-20-24-28-32 holes. Though i'd have to do some checking to find the right drillings in stock. I think they'd cost about the same too, which is why i suggested them. American Classic 420 rims w...

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You'll have to read the other posts Simon, TWE was contacted by Huw already.

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That's right, some hubs prefer different oils, or greases depending on their freewheel mechanism. Too much grease and it's likely to perform poorly. I'm sure you've heard of people running track hubs on oil, however this means frequent servicing as the oil escapes, but surposedly keeps any friction ...

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He doesn't specify what hubs he actually uses, though i can try and work it out from the pictures on the site. One thing i like with shimano hubs is that they still use cup and cone bearings rather than sealed cartridge bearings. Tried looking at the pics on the site, and the hubs i can see are Amer...

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Fusions are 60g heavier than aeroheads. Deep V's are strong, but since Huw wants the wheels for racing, i reckon something a little lighter is nice, and the Niobium rims shouldn't be too much different in price to the DeepV's, but you'll save 200-300g, considering the Niobiums are 440-465g, and Deep...

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Niobium rims are made by Kinlin in Taiwan. http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=22757 They're obviously filled with charisma!!! Can't beat it for a selling point. :lol: Also labled as IRD, and Speedcific, and i'm sure there're others. One place for the rims http://fairwheelbikes....

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Sounds like the same thing wrong with my rear american classic hub (may have occured in adjustment, but either way i wasn't happy), though i haven't been bothered to get new bearings to try and fix it. The front hub on the other hand seems fine, though i've read that the small bearings may have a sh...

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For that price the Tokens are a bit too heavy. It seems as though you just want something simple that will perform well, and be nice and strong. If we try and keep the budget close to $500, there're a few options available. Custom build- Rims- for something simple i'd probably go with Velocity Aeroh...

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that's what i suspected, and if they only cost 20cents, they probably also weigh the same amount.

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Sounds like i would have been in the park by myself if i got up. Hopefully David enjoyed his riding, at least he would have been able to see a bit of Sydney with all those wrong turns. I guess if you don't have long stem tubes carrying a valve extender would probably be a good thing. I'm not even su...

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Did you take Quigs through the park today Geoff?

I decided i would leave my alarm off this morning when the rain began last night. I think i needed the sleep anyway, but it looked like a nice day when i got up.

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There's a gradient profile for stage 1 available with the map on the website, but stage 3 is still on the way. I would map it, but i'm currently limited to dial-up while my connection is upgraded. My plan is to at least have some legs when i'm down there, i had run out of form last year from racing ...

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they would probably have said something about the cabbage leaf not having the australian standards sticker on it.....

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Looks good, i'll investigate it a bit, as i recall seeing that frame unbadged a for cheaper direct.

I wouldn't mind a nice time trial bike, but my mum would be sure to say something if i added another bike to the collection, not to mention finding room for it.

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Time to start deciding if you're willing to take on the challenge of the Tour of Bright. It's a tough but very enjoyable race, with plenty of beautiful scenery. The race for 2007 consists of 3 stages. Stage one is a tough 105km road stage with a nice 7.5km 6.6% climb up Tawonga Gap starting at 22km ...

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Obviously it wouldn't be where i work, because prices just aren't good enough. I only buy if things are on good specials, just think a 2 for $20 special where you save $17 (just an example, not a current special). I usually work out the best buys, otherwise there's DM's which you can find some barga...

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Are they velocity's? I think i prefer mine with black hubs and round double butted black spokes.

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If only this meant there would be some price drops..... Not entirely true with Cervelo. If you buy overseas you can save a bit, especially with the US dollar so low. Of course savings depend on whether you're stuck paying customs (most likely with dhl or similar shipping methods) but still, from pri...

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Other options are the Apollo (formerly raceline) track bike, which has been popular. Or there's hillbrick. I also noticed De Ver cycles have a track bike when looking through the bicycling australia magazine, http://www.bikesdever.com.au/Bikes%20De%20Ver.htm I like the deep rims, but the 130bcd cran...

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Hopefully you won't be seen trying to get that gear lever working, because you'd have to be well and truly gone.

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I prefer SIS Go bars to powerbars these days. Much easier to eat, though i only had an issue with powerbars when it was cold, as warm temperatures seem to soften them up enough.

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Where's the option for Energy Gels, or Energy Bars??? I guess i'll have to decide between Gummi bears, and Snakes, since i usually have a combination of bars, gels, and lollies.

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For me, i always get cramps when my fitness is low, though i am learning to hold them on the virge of taking over (just before the muscle locks). They can also happen when increasing training amounts, though eventually the body will learn to handle the increased amount. One day i'll get around to re...

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Great results guys, sounds like an exciting time on the track, hopefully i'll have time to get to an open one day.

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Just to clarify, it wasn't lack of drinks, as we all had sports drinks, but we should have carried 1 bottle of each water and sports drink in order to douse ourselves for cooling. We now know this for next time.

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Thanks for writing the report Eugen, I hadn't gotten to it, due to other stuff occupying me. Eugen's basically said it all, though i measured 87km. Also, we should mention the headwind on the outward leg which really put the suffering in as the 2nd lap began. From my timing during the time trial, we...

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Wait until tomorrow. I'm still recovering!!!

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I think Mike was going with the view that the frame etc. are "borrowed" from his track bike!! Just like my fixie has borrowed pedals, seatpost, and saddle from my touring bike. Using the borrowed formula, m,y bike cost $300 for wheels, and about $30-50 for cables chain, bartape and stem. E...

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i'm guessing it's much more irritating too, just imagine flying down a high speed technical descent only to have you drink bottle start beeping or whatever it does. If the bottle could refill itself, then maybe i'd consider the $30.

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According to the program it is now 9:58 start time, which is better for me. I guess we should get there somewhere in between 8:30am and 9am. They must have got the order wrong before with the better (predicted) teams first rather than last where they should be. So, predictions are for us to be 3rd l...

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It was just too hard to ignore it!

I only had 1 glass of red wine...

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Damain??

Who's Damain?

I think your confusing comes with the a and the i. Try thinking Damian!!!

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Looking at last years results, there were only 3 teams. 2 were DQ'd and the winners time was 2:13.30. So, if we average 36, we'd beat that time.

I think the first 2 teams would be the fastest.

I guess we should turn up 9-9.30ish. I'll give Eugen and Kieran a call to confirm.

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No, it just means i could carry 30kg. 8) There's also a 260g one which has extra attachments, but the one i wanted previously, the 'fly' weighs 330g and only carries 18kg. The plan is for the bike to be under 8kg unloaded, though i haven't decided if it's possible with a dynamo hub (maybe 8.5kg with...

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Looks like we're starting at 10:26am. I would have prefered earlier, but at least it's not too late. If we can do the ride in 2:15 or something similar (average 35.5) I should be able to get back in time for work without too much hassle.

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Maybe you really saved the money so you could get some of these http://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/trk-bar-nitto09.htm and the matching sugino cranks http://www.thebikebiz.com/ProductDetail ... CR%2DSUG04

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I've been thinking i need this http://www.tubus.com/index/lang/en/rubr ... %20carrier for my touring bike. Can't go wrong with the lightest rack in the world.

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You don't need the track ends..... but them or horizontal dropouts are important for chain tensioning, otherwise you need one of those ENO hubs, or a special bottom bracket.

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at least he's drilled it out to save weight

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For helmet cams, take a look here. http://www.helmetcamreview.com/ The ATC2K can be had for around AUD$150 with 2G memory card (maybe a bit more), though i'm unsure if the qaulity is sufficient. Otherwise the better ones usually require a camcorder to record onto as well as being more expensive.

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FAswad, do you want standard diameter or oversized? Deda Newtons come in a dark metal polish, actual pics here http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB ... hp?t=35858
Otherwise, i'll let you know what other choices there are.

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I'm not sure what to put for buying a road bike, but i think the main thing is budget. Work out the budget and then if you don't have shoes, helmet, everything you need when riding, etc, take $400-500 off the budget to cover the expenses to get you on the road. I'll write up my meet the riders bit w...

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Jersey Winners Day 2 The Pink Jersey has been awarded to James Cheetham of Sydney. James broke his wheel during the day and got a little frustrated by it all and sent his bike sailing through the air when seeing what he had done to his wheel. We have fixed his bike for today but hIs little dummy spi...

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I pushed my seat forward as much as i could, and up 1/2cm, and it seemed fine on the weekend. Still working on the pads. For the seat, just go with what's most comfortable.

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Cameron Meyer (SA-AIS.com) won the Elite mens, though 2nd placed Kent Nash is the NSW Criterium Champion (have to be from NSW). Our friend Phil Scheidegger came 5th in Div3. I've had the drinking excuse a couple of times recently, so i'm sure you would have been forgiven. Another acceptable excuse w...

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Sounds good. I should be alright by sunday, and i always get a boost when racing. In the future i might need to build myself a timetrial bike so i can get into a more suitable position, especially if i plan to do the ITT, though it'll probably just be a cheapy alloy frame, rather than one of those n...

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I've got a spare helmet you can use if you need another option. I'd suggest bringing your pedals would be best, so you don't have to go through the hassle of positioning the cleats. For the sunday, i think we should take you for the monthly (almost fortnightly now) ride through the Royal National Pa...

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I tried my bars out today too, though i still need to get the arm rests on. They seem alright, though i couldn't tell if it was easier due to the headwind. Hopefully my legs will be feeling good for Sunday, as they're a bit underdone.

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I've got a forward set seatpost, i'll let you know if i'm going to use it tomorrow, otherwise you can borrow it. It's generally not advised to flip a seat post, as they're not designed for it, and you usually can't get a suitable angle.

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I didn't check what the hole count was. If it was 36h, i've got some rims that could be suitable, otherwise i'll let you know if i see anything. Otherwise a bit of a polish and clean and it should be looking good, though i suspect some new brake lever hoods could be good (can't see well enough).

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I think we'll wing it, we can work out some sort of a plan, such as 500m turns, but we can talk during the time trial anyway.

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That's why i'm modifying mine, so i don't damage the bartape too much in just one ride.

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The arm rests i have are for 26mm, but i'll be modifying mine anyway. I think you'd be fine securing them with cableties and rubber pads as i'm going to do. Not sure what you can do about the bar slope issue. There's probably a way to secure them well enough, but different bars may be easier. I thin...

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I put mine on tonight, had to swap the bars as well. 55g extra swapping from my Deda Spectrums to Deda Newtons, and unfortunately for me, they're not my favoured 43cm O-O which i'll have to specially order one day. The GCB's went on fine, still need to sort out my position (move the saddle a bit for...

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Fish and Chips shop on the Northbound side, between the bridge and the street we usually turn out of. I think it was the Dolphin Combo that i had when we stopped for lunch on one of our training rides. Delicious.

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big chainring is 50, so using what fixedgear said, i'd say it's 50/46, biggest cog looks to be between 23 and 25, so cassette range is probably 15 or 16 to 23-25. Lindsay would bea ble to tell us exactly.

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That's about 2/3 of the way home. shop at waterfall is about halfway. but i guess there's a tap at sutherland, though i'm sure there're more in other places.

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Doubt whether you'll need to stop for too much, you can fill up before you head back, and there're shops along the way.

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Sounds good. We should know what we're up against soon. I'm just hoping for a nice early start time, so i'll be able to work.

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I really should come out one saturday, need to see where exactly this hill is, as i don't remember many hills being there.

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looks like it was more the slight touching with the other rider that did it. If his tyre blew i'm guessing it happened while falling, as there appears to be a puff of dust appear at one point.

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Doesn't look like too much to be done. Should turn out nice.

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i believe those are maximum lifetimes, i've heard of people going through one in one race due to a slight skid when braking suddenly, less likely on the track, but as simon said, i'd save them for racing. The gp4000 are now being made with black chili rubber, initially (when the black chili rubber w...

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I can lend you a wheel.

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I have work drinks on saturday, for a few peoples birthdays (including me), so i'll be lucky to get out at all.

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I'm sure Lindsay would have an answer, but you'd have to wait for his return!!!

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i'd say priorities for track tyres are low rolling resitance, and low weight. You generally shouldn't puncture, but knowing you mike, maybe some mr tuffys would be beneficial.

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I disagree with the view of coloured tyres being inferior, as black tyres are died too from what i remember, so they're just the same coloured, and natural would be a sort of brown (i think my track tyres are natural colour), and from my experiences there's no difference. Well definitely with contin...

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Sounds good, pm sent. I still need to let my work know that i'll be coming in a bit late, but i'm sure they won't mind too much. I'm sure i can get back by 2pm. Not sure if you just have to email the names of team members to someone, or what needs to be done. Just spoke with Eugen and from looking a...

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I usually ignore the cameras when i'm stuffed, because i just don't care anymore. I could have just been trying to get a tiny bit more speed into the bike, just hoping it would all be over quicker.

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My photo doesn't show what was going on up Gibralter, must have got me in a good patch, not that i remember having any.

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might want to remove the recent.atom bit from the link, as it keeps wanting me to download something. Works fine with the remaining bit.

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I would do it, if i didn't have to work! So it'll have to wait until next year.

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Bulli Pass isn't that bad..... only gets to 15%!!

I guess the climb up to Stanwell Tops is a bit easier, but it's still reasonably steep.

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I might join you guys, but i'll turn back at Bulli Pass so i can get back home in time for work.

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Good work. This means i can stick to using sheldon browns calculator.

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48-17 should be alright, it's not likely anyone will be riding up razorback. When i make my 3 speed fixie wheel it might be possible.

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red face plate is good, but cost is bad.

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I'll be working until 8pm i think, so i don't think i'll be of any use.

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I'm guessing he got that from Sheldon Browns site, Always seems 2inches out compared to other charts.

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I got some Deda Newton bars on ebay, so i'll be able to test out the setup. Will probably have to stay with the Newtons until after the Tour of Bright as there's a time trial down there. I need a 120mm stem for another bike, so i may as well get one to test out. Just need to decide if i'm going with...

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I could have gone to the 6.30 ride, but i decided more sleep before work would be better. I didn't have enough sleep the night before either.

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I slept through my alarm, didn't actually turn it completely off until 6:10am. Was a bit too tired after staying up to watch the rugby last night, but there'll always be other times.

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Ok, i've realised i'm limited by budget once again, so i'll have to wait until i can get a suitable hub for conversion. Which means i'll be sticking with the Daccordi for now, just building a new wheel to test this 3 speed fixed gear sensation. I almost got a SRAM p5 hub for around $100, but i'd hav...

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