Ken Dinnerville 2010 race entries open
Ive been told this is a good race to do, its on the 30th may. The entries are limited to the first 170 and theres allready 117 entered. with all the track stuff at the moment its easy to forget considering its awhile away.
so this is a reminder to everyone!
Cheers,
Amy.
so this is a reminder to everyone!
Cheers,
Amy.
Gee
Bookings opened about 2 months earlier than usual.
I guarantee this race will be oversubscribed by end of today or next business day.
If you want to ride it you have to book now
No joking
I've justed booked from a horse stud farm in Qld on by crackberry
Bookings opened about 2 months earlier than usual.
I guarantee this race will be oversubscribed by end of today or next business day.
If you want to ride it you have to book now
No joking
I've justed booked from a horse stud farm in Qld on by crackberry
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In. First race entry as MMAS4.
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I have entered. My second go and this time I will try to not DNF.
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MMAS4... welcome to the real categoryIn. First race entry as MMAS4.
22 DHBC riders entered at this point and we've easily beat our previous best effort of 14 riders in 2008.
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i think it's sold out. just went on to enter and it did not come up with the event.
I can't check if it has sold out or not as I have already signed on, but go to Event Entry -> Online Entry drop down menu and then sign in with your membership ID. The available races should all be listed on the page.
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Yeah, it's not coming up there so i can assume that it's either full or i'm somehow not eligibleI can't check if it has sold out or not as I have already signed on, but go to Event Entry -> Online Entry drop down menu and then sign in with your membership ID. The available races should all be listed on the page.
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Have another crack at it tomorrow, sometimes their system plays upYeah, it's not coming up there so i can assume that it's either full or i'm somehow not eligible
Name Club Category
BRIERS, Timothy Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
CHIDGEY, Michael Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
FOWLER, James Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
LLEWELLYN, Timothy Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
NGUYEN, John Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
WALLMAN, Matthew Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
ARMSTRONG, Victoria Dulwich Hill BC ELITEW
VESTY, Amy Dulwich Hill BC ELITEW
CHUBB, Alexander Dulwich Hill BC M23
BERRY, Simon Dulwich Hill BC MMAS1
IMPALA, Anthony Dulwich Hill BC MMAS2
LEES, Christian Dulwich Hill BC MMAS2
STOCKWELL, Julian Dulwich Hill BC MMAS2
ARMISHAW, Paul Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
BREGOLIN, Nick Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
CLEMENT, Michael Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
LACEY, Mark Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
LANGDON, Michael Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
MARTIN, Geoff Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
O'SULLIVAN, Peter Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
YU, Weiyun Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
KENNEDY, Michael Dulwich Hill BC MMAS5
NORMAN, Camilla Dulwich Hill BC WMAS2
TROUTMAN, Joanne Dulwich Hill BC WMAS4
BRIERS, Timothy Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
CHIDGEY, Michael Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
FOWLER, James Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
LLEWELLYN, Timothy Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
NGUYEN, John Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
WALLMAN, Matthew Dulwich Hill BC ELITEM
ARMSTRONG, Victoria Dulwich Hill BC ELITEW
VESTY, Amy Dulwich Hill BC ELITEW
CHUBB, Alexander Dulwich Hill BC M23
BERRY, Simon Dulwich Hill BC MMAS1
IMPALA, Anthony Dulwich Hill BC MMAS2
LEES, Christian Dulwich Hill BC MMAS2
STOCKWELL, Julian Dulwich Hill BC MMAS2
ARMISHAW, Paul Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
BREGOLIN, Nick Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
CLEMENT, Michael Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
LACEY, Mark Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
LANGDON, Michael Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
MARTIN, Geoff Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
O'SULLIVAN, Peter Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
YU, Weiyun Dulwich Hill BC MMAS4
KENNEDY, Michael Dulwich Hill BC MMAS5
NORMAN, Camilla Dulwich Hill BC WMAS2
TROUTMAN, Joanne Dulwich Hill BC WMAS4
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Have another crack at it tomorrow, sometimes their system plays up
I tried again with no luck so i completed a manual entry form and it got accepted.I tried but dont get it in the list of races I can compete in. Do I need to have done some other races to be eligible?
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Does anyone know Sheamus? Apparently he lived in my apartment a few years ago... I get some of his mail!
I guess Simon would since it looks like he did the Dinnerville with him in '05 (and with a last name like that he might have the same colour hair too...)Does anyone know Sheamus? Apparently he lived in my apartment a few years ago... I get some of his mail!
He was a member of our club but has gone to Ireland. Ask GeoffM for current contact info or try his little used forum ID (shaymoo).Does anyone know Sheamus? Apparently he lived in my apartment a few years ago... I get some of his mail!
It's a handicap so age grading isn't relevant. There's one nasty hill on the course and the bunch would push the pace to drop riders, repeated 3 times. So get your climbing legs ready along with an endurance base for 92km at race pace.Will there be any race tactics for the Dulwich Hill ELITEM & MMAS4 teams?
Hills?...who said hills? Camilla told me there were only down hills. Camilla you big liar!! Can I back out now?It's a handicap so age grading isn't relevant. There's one nasty hill on the course and the bunch would push the pace to drop riders, repeated 3 times. So get your climbing legs ready along with an endurance base for 92km at race pace.
You'll be fine and will enjoy the challenge. I'd say the hill is more like a short sharp riser of around 7-8%, nothing sustaining like RNP and similar.Hills?...who said hills? Camilla told me there were only down hills. Camilla you big liar!! Can I back out now?
If you really want out, I suspect your entry ticket can fetch good prices on the black market.
I just hope they've resurfaced some of the sections since 2008.
Hate to say it Tim.....Nothing can beat Camilla if she has been out boozing all night on red wine and cheese. Apart from killing off competition with her wine breath, red wine seems to be equavalent to blood doping for Killer Camilla.far out?!!! what a line up of Team DHBC!!! i hope you all realise that im there to beat all of you
Especially Camilla i wish to prove that my Coffee and milkshakes diet is far superior to wine and cheese
On an unrelated note: DHBC has some Kick Ass woman names now. I really dig "Megatron", now there's also "Killer Camilla" and I just thought then of "V8 Vesty". Maybe I should change my name to "Troutor" - sounds meaner than Trouty. That is as far as Ive got with the woman so far.
So who are riding their CF deep dish for this race?Isn't it the bad road surface that makes this race exciting....
Maybe people should send reminder emails to ICC on this. Someone local can easily contact the council a week or two before the race for a request to fill in those nasties. Councils are usually quite good in fixing these and avoid potential liabilities when reported through proper channels.I hope they've filled in some of the Potholes since 2009!!
The entries for this race are officially closed now, this was on the cycling nsw website.
'Kevin Young, Monday, 4 January 2010
Cycling NSW wishes to advise the 2010 Ken Dinnerville road open scheduled for Sunday 30th May 2010 has closed oversubscribed.
With race fields restricted to 150 riders due to the narrow roads used and the popularity of the event, race organizers have had to close the event.'
DHBC got a good number of entrants in, my question is for anyone who did this last year .... how do the handicaps work???
'Kevin Young, Monday, 4 January 2010
Cycling NSW wishes to advise the 2010 Ken Dinnerville road open scheduled for Sunday 30th May 2010 has closed oversubscribed.
With race fields restricted to 150 riders due to the narrow roads used and the popularity of the event, race organizers have had to close the event.'
DHBC got a good number of entrants in, my question is for anyone who did this last year .... how do the handicaps work???
Same as all others. The bunch with the largest handicap starts first and then sequential bunches follow in time order. Then it's a mad ride to stay away from the chasing bunches and chase the bunches in front. By mid-race or a little later, the aggregating bunches can be very big with long elastics. On that short hill and at the turn around, it's not a good idea to be towards the back of the pack.
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I certainly will be, tubular wheels are so very nice to race on.So who are riding their CF deep dish for this race?
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DHBC will probably have to submit recommendations for unknown riders.DHBC got a good number of entrants in, my question is for anyone who did this last year .... how do the handicaps work???
Last year I was on 10 minutes and rode with the flu. I'm guessing you will be on 5 minutes
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Not 100% sure how it works, for unknown riders there is nothing for the club to do, for known riders, some sort of advice comes from the club, I think that is Lindsay
At the end of the day, lower grades don't stand a chance over 92km. It's ride, ride, ride, get over taken, join/draft the new bunch, get over taken by A bunch and try to hang on and get dropped at the next hammer down section.
I remember in the 2008 edition, one of the fellow rider in the bunch was a local and knew the exact speed we needed to maintain to stand a chance at the finish line. It was something like 38km/h. Yeah, right.
It's more about the experience and fun.
I remember in the 2008 edition, one of the fellow rider in the bunch was a local and knew the exact speed we needed to maintain to stand a chance at the finish line. It was something like 38km/h. Yeah, right.
It's more about the experience and fun.
Yep - I am totally expecting to just ride, get over taken, draft, draft draft, and certainly at some point get dropped. Totally about the experience for me, but I guess a good handicap reduces the level at which you get annihilated.At the end of the day, lower grades don't stand a chance over 92km. It's ride, ride, ride, get over taken, join/draft the new bunch, get over taken by A bunch and try to hang on and get dropped at the next hammer down section.
I remember in the 2008 edition, one of the fellow rider in the bunch was a local and knew the exact speed we needed to maintain to stand a chance at the finish line. It was something like 38km/h. Yeah, right.
It's more about the experience and fun.
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That's why I didn't win in 2008, my average speed as only 37.89907312km/h. I needed to be traveling 0.10092688km/h faster38km/h
Joanne, I'm not the state handicapper, but I'd guess that the handicaps are going to be something like;
Club D grade -> Limit
Club C grade -> 5 or 10 minutes
Club B grade -> 15 minutes
I've had a surf around for previous handicaps and didn't find them
I found the following results
2008
2009
That might be generally true, but the whole point of a handicapping system is to reduce the inevitability of such a scenario and it's worked for this race over the last two years as the scratchies and nearby groups have failed to catch and the win has been taken by the middle groups. Illawarra CC put quite a bit of focus on this race and I would expect to see a lot of their riders on the middle marks.At the end of the day, lower grades don't stand a chance over 92km. It's ride, ride, ride, get over taken, join/draft the new bunch, get over taken by A bunch and try to hang on and get dropped at the next hammer down section.
When I referred to the lower grades, I meant the lower end. The situation is similar to our club crits. For the weaker riders, sustaining 92km non-stop at race pace is already a big enough challenge.
This is one race which has favoured the middle and slower field over the years. There was of course the controversial win of DHBC's own Shamus O'Halloran in 2005 with third to DHBC rider Andrew Duggan (now Easts), both of whom started at Limit (which is the slowest bunch - first bunch to leave).
Two years ago I was in Limit bunch and was riding with Amanda Spratt's dad Graeme from Penrith club. He hadn't ridden for about 15 years in a race (or so he said), and was good in his young days. He managed to come second in the whole race, in the sprint. Not bad for a MMAS 6. He came in the top 10 last year, but wasn't Limit, but back a bit.
So this race does have a good history of spreading the wins out across the field, and not just to the Scratchies (the last bunch to leave - the fastest Group)
Two years ago I was in Limit bunch and was riding with Amanda Spratt's dad Graeme from Penrith club. He hadn't ridden for about 15 years in a race (or so he said), and was good in his young days. He managed to come second in the whole race, in the sprint. Not bad for a MMAS 6. He came in the top 10 last year, but wasn't Limit, but back a bit.
So this race does have a good history of spreading the wins out across the field, and not just to the Scratchies (the last bunch to leave - the fastest Group)
Girls and boys... 30 days and counting down!
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not looking forward to the handicaps
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Drive or catch the trainHow do we get there?!
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Thanks geoff, I'll take you up on thatI've got room for one person in my car and one bike on the roofracks. Let me know if anyone is interests
This is also a great race to watch with all the action happening on the hill. I was planning to ride down on Sunday to watch the race. Leave Marrickville around 6:30am then leave the bunch at Waterfall. If anyone else is interested in the ride let me know.
Hey Adrian, I would definately be interested. Sounds like a good ride and have never been to Dapto. I'll let you know when we get closer to the date. Hopefully i don't have work or assignments.This is also a great race to watch with all the action happening on the hill. I was planning to ride down on Sunday to watch the race. Leave Marrickville around 6:30am then leave the bunch at Waterfall. If anyone else is interested in the ride let me know.
We are less than two weeks away from the race. I think rather than going for an individual race, we can work together as DHBC team(s) and lead our best sprinters to the finish line to bring home some podium finishes.
To get started, let's find out who is competing in which handicap grade. Since this will be my first road race, I guess I will be at the lowest grade? Does anyone know wot are the grades in this race?
To get started, let's find out who is competing in which handicap grade. Since this will be my first road race, I guess I will be at the lowest grade? Does anyone know wot are the grades in this race?
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The grades will be published on the web site
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My Handicap will be about 10 minutes off limit, those faster than me will be further back and those slower than me will be in 5 minutes off limit and limit.
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Limit starts first, then there's a group about every 5 minutes until everyone has started racing
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It will be published on Cycling NSW
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Hi folks
Unfortunately I will be a DNS for Ken Dinnerville. I have not been on the bike for about 4 weeks due to a combination of health issues and work commitments. I was really looking forward to it. So I will reset my sights for later in the year.
Michael
Unfortunately I will be a DNS for Ken Dinnerville. I have not been on the bike for about 4 weeks due to a combination of health issues and work commitments. I was really looking forward to it. So I will reset my sights for later in the year.
Michael
Sorry to hear that Michael and sounded similar to the collapse of my training plan. But I'll give it a go as a training ride and hope the weather is favourable on the day.Unfortunately I will be a DNS for Ken Dinnerville. I have not been on the bike for about 4 weeks due to a combination of health issues and work commitments. I was really looking forward to it. So I will reset my sights for later in the year.
I thought it was a left hander at the bottom of that descent section. No?How exciting is the right-hander at the bottom of Marshall Mt going to be if it rains! Maybe they'll park 10 ambulances at the bottom of it this year instead of the usual 1.
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I'll give it about a 50/50 chance that your on 5 minutes off limit
50/50? Sitting on the fence?I'll give it about a 50/50 chance that your on 5 minutes off limit
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I can't find handicaps either, looks like they ain't up yet
James T-Bone and I have seen a provisional handicap from State Handicapper and responded with some minor changes. He's advised these will go up on Wed/Thurs as James mentioned.
Whilst we know what these may look like, its best to see final call by the State Handicapper - he may need to make relative adjustments.
There's likely to be about 3 groups with about 5-6 DHBC riders so its going to be very colourful Red and Black next Sunday. We might have to be careful in case we forget its a race and think its a Sunday training run.......
Whilst we know what these may look like, its best to see final call by the State Handicapper - he may need to make relative adjustments.
There's likely to be about 3 groups with about 5-6 DHBC riders so its going to be very colourful Red and Black next Sunday. We might have to be careful in case we forget its a race and think its a Sunday training run.......
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