Ken Dinnerville 29 May Race - Entries open 7th March
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I'd been meaning to put that up too. My suggestion to everyone who wants to enter, is to drop a post here and when 7th march comes up someone can post a reminder and we will all receive a thread update notification (assuming you settings are such)
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Im looking forward to this one, hopefully I can have some good form around this time. It would be a good one to win.
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I better get to work early
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Overall costs are much lower as we don't pay for a weekend away
I just read about this - looks like I've missed out on a good one. Out of interest, how do they work out the handicaps?
Contact CNSW and see if they have a waiting list or something. People pull out... In fact people just don't show up on the day like a hell of a lot of people did last year because of the threat of rain or whatever.
Sucks to not have James and Alex in there
Sucks to not have James and Alex in there
I agree, there may be a waiting list. Who is going to tow me back onto the bunch if James isn't there this year. And Alex wants to race vicariously through me, well prepare to be disappointed, perhaps you should do this through Matt.
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You can always try transfering it Vic. Try sending linda at cycling nsw an email (linda.hamwi(at)cycling.org.au), shes always happy to help.
In that case potholes, cow dung and crashes be damned, I'm packing the race wheels and my game face this year!And Alex wants to race vicariously through me, well prepare to be disappointed, perhaps you should do this through Matt.
Stop press!!!
Shamus O'Halloran who placed the DHBC name on the winning books for Ken Dinnervilee race in 2005 is scheduled to come home from Ireland in November and move into Glebe. I was chatting with him on FB last night.
A past hero, making a come back for 2012?! Is he our Lance?
Shamus O'Halloran who placed the DHBC name on the winning books for Ken Dinnervilee race in 2005 is scheduled to come home from Ireland in November and move into Glebe. I was chatting with him on FB last night.
A past hero, making a come back for 2012?! Is he our Lance?
I'm out. Officially gave my position back, so that some lucky waiting-lister more worthy than I could have a crack at it. Neck's still very problematic and I don't want to risk more damage. I tried to give my spot to a DHBCer, but it wasn't to be...
Good luck everyone!
Good luck everyone!
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Can anyone give a lift to the Dinnerval?
The gravel and pot holes will still be there. The cow pats will just fly on the day. Good luck!
It's not very long but it is a little steep if I remember correctly. Nothing that you won't be able to sprint over quite easily I imagine. It's basically an out of the saddle all the way to the top type hill - much like the eastern suburbs ones you would be used to hitting up, only shorter!
Yeah the hill is not too bad at all. Coming from the back side it is a nice gradual climb, but can be a bit deceptive and at pace will sort out riders pretty quick. The other side is reasonably steep, a bit like Lilyfield Road near Iron Cove I guess, but maybe not quite that bad. I found it really tough last Sunday, but I think that's my fixie legs telling me they don't like being in the small chainring.
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I looked last night, handicaps weren't up.
Who can give me a lift?
Who can give me a lift?
That hill is comparable to Lilyfield hill (going towards the city near Leichhardt Oval) in terms of grade but longer. And adding the pace the combined bunch will hit it (especially on the 2nd and 3rd lap). It'll cause major damage. So it's desirable to get to the front before the bottom of the hill.
Ed: clarifying which Lilyfield hill.
Ed: clarifying which Lilyfield hill.
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Especially if your in the mega bunch, as it will split up on the 3rd run up the hillThat hill is comparable to Lilyfield in terms of grade but longer. And adding the pace the combined bunch will hit it (especially on the 2nd and 3rd lap). It'll cause major damage. So it's desirable to get to the front before the bottom of the hill.
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Ha ha ha ha, viva the mega bunch !!!!!!
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woohoo +23mins.
Mike - have you sorted out a lift yet? if you have no luck getting one i may have a spare seat in the old valiant depending on whether it's ready to pick up from the rego check or not. most likely 90% chance.
Mike - have you sorted out a lift yet? if you have no luck getting one i may have a spare seat in the old valiant depending on whether it's ready to pick up from the rego check or not. most likely 90% chance.
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Hi Simon, no lift yet. I've also got a bike rack that secures on to a square roof rack in a couple of minutes. Let me know, appreciate that
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I'm going crazy, I can't see the handicaps on that page. Is it in code??
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They have been removed. Check again tomorrowI'm going crazy, I can't see the handicaps on that page. Is it in code??
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I think I'm in the same bunch I was in last year, bunch 4 from the front, which is bunch 7 in the list. Came upon my race report from last year, thought it might be of interest to some of the new guys
Suppose its time for me to put in my race report.
Background
2008 - Bunch 2, dropped by the mega bunch about 8k from the finish. Ave speed 38kph (calculated)
2009 - Bunch 2, rode with the flu, dropped by the mega bunch early into lap 3
2010 - Bunch 4, previous day's crash was hurting me, had difficulty getting on the bike but seemed to be able ride it fine. Decided to race with the intention of completing 1 lap and then get Micks ute and drive up to a spot to take photos.
Race
Lap 1 - felt nauseous for the first 10k and then felt better. The pace was within me despite being 2 more bunch's back and yesterdays off. Dropped on the hill but rode back on.
Lap 2 - The mega bunch formed, felt comfortable, pace up a little but still manageable. No issues on the hill.
Lap 3 - Rode across a split after the turnaround. Turned out to be the wrong decision as the bunches eventually regrouped. 3 riders went off the front and the bunch basically sat up. This slowdown is what probably cost the mega bunch the race as in the end the scratchies caught. On the hill the mega bunch exploded, I rode around a stack of riders, only to just miss the front bunch (actually 2 bunches of 10 each). Once I got my composure back I chased with one other rider and while I was gaining the other rider was spent and we went backwards when he was on the front. Eventually I noticed we were being caught by another bunch, turned out to be scratch. I caught the bunch but only lasted a few K's. Rode solo and then found the same other rider again and we cruised back, enjoying the country side this time, didn't notice it before.
Result
Scratch - 40th
Handicap - 39th
Though the actual is better than above due to the inclusion of DNF riders.
Now that James is explained, 3rd DHBC rider (both scratch and handicap)
2:20:50.14 for a calculated 39.5kph average speed, 1.5kph faster than 2008.
Post Morton
If only - we nearly always have one of these. A marginal improvement on the hill would of done it. At the base a lot of riders went around on the wrong side of the road, I too should of crept up prior to the climb.
Injury - I hurt like buggery afterwards, it also removed my ability to use my upper body on the climb.
Should I - No I shouldn't of ridden
Result - I'm really pleased with my result.
Nice report Mike. Being in the last group, but probably in form good enough to be bumped up a few groups, my biggest concern is finding a hardcore group of riders willing to push the average up to 36km/h to stay ahead of the scratch bunch. When Seamus won (and Andrew Duggan came third) they were in the limit bunch and got a group of four working well together and stayed ahead the whole course.
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Timbo, if you can do that you will be on the money, but not that easy off limit. In 2008 in my first race, bunch 2, which is bunch 8 this year we were only averaging 34kph for the first lap and 1/4 till the mega bunch formed. The overall average of 38kph was achieved thru averaging more than 40kph on the last lap. The limit riders can only win if they stay away from the mega bunch
Yeah I would agree with that conclusion. In 2008 I remember catching the limit bunch somewhere in the middle of the second lap before the hill... They were out by themselves for a long time. It was a well drilled paceline of women from the Illawarra club but they were nowhere near as fast as the mega bunch that we'd formed.
You'd need a lucky handicap and an exceptional committment to share the pace making from the start line to ride away with this. From memory Mike, we were pretty slow in the second bunch because no-one wanted to share the pacemaking, so anything is possible is you keep the speed up.
You'd need a lucky handicap and an exceptional committment to share the pace making from the start line to ride away with this. From memory Mike, we were pretty slow in the second bunch because no-one wanted to share the pacemaking, so anything is possible is you keep the speed up.
Last year two local boys made a break from the 2nd/3rd(?) bunch on lap 2 in a futile attempt to stay off the mega bunch. They clearly didn't have enough in numbers and was too late. Shouldn't have hung around the slower rider for so long.
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Yeh Adrian that's the way I remember it in 2008, it was you, me and about 3 others doing the work
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Hey mike, still need a lift on Sunday? Got the car back so it's good to go. No roof racks so you will need to remove wheels and possibly lower seatpost to get it in the boot if that suits.
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Thanks Simon, I'll PM my info to you
the race according to a newbie!
so the Club Giro is getting heated with accusations of loopholes, softies and dodgy sprints, i'm just happily plodding away on my usual mountain climb commute. i've got and extra 400-500k in my legs this month. it's good. so taking it easy all week included a few more mountain climbs, NRsprints with Simon and the hardcore Aimee. a few fast laps around centenial with slowies, and a really tough track session thanks to all the women who come down!
Maybe when i say i'll take it easy befor a race i might do that next time.... (naw no way that's no fun)
Lap 1- I felt good! this whole gears thing is awesome! so i started the race off the front with tim. about a k in i peeled off and waited for my next turn on the front in the rotation. i also figured out how not to pull off and rotate around in the road! oops! the group soon got into a rhythm except every time i got to the front. i would give it a bit of a push and jum too far in the front. BTW the road were *censored*. it added to the fun.
hill climb 1. it was good. but changing down into a smaller gear not a good idea.
the first lap was good.
... and then the head wind.
Lap 2 felt like someone had come along and put the breaks on my bike. and i couldn't take them off. so instead of rotating around i sat on the back and relaxed. sorta. i was just hanging on. but didn't think i was in trouble.
hill climb 2. i thought it was a good idea to continue to sit back and take it easy with the bunch. bad idea. i ususally mash up hills on a big gear, like a sprint. my lack of spinnin ability on hills resulted in me using my granny gear and being dropped. and it was all over from there.
initiall i thought i could catch them. so i upped the speed and went really low into my drops and TT'ed it for 5k. no luck. then i realized the head win sucked. and sat up ate some food drank some water and really let my speed drop while i waited for the next bunch. also bad idea. i relaxed too much and my legs decided to weigh a about a f**k ton. the next group caught me and passed me. there was a bit of a mix up at the turn around with me and the car, and i well and truely lost the group.
Lap3. this was the longest 30k of my life. i'm used to riding on my own in the city on my commute, but on city roads there are cars to drag you along and traffic lights to stop and rest at. but i kept going i wanted to finish. iw as *censored* riding on my own. i loved it!
this was such a good ride. i made every mistake i could and i think(i hope) i will learn from them. i'm totally going to do this again.
...Hill climb 3. no comment. the croud had left, i was down in the smallest of granny gears, and i could hear a cow moo-ing at me for encouragement, althought i think he thought it was a joke.
by this time all the other dropped riders had quit and the course was being packed up. i was eventually caught by 2 other keen finishers. we did the final 6 mini hills to the finish(i felt fresh again riding with a group). it was such a good ride!
congrats to all the others who rode. and a big mention to tim who rode like a champ off the front to win King of the Mountain and it was such a shame you got caught.
such a good ride!
so the Club Giro is getting heated with accusations of loopholes, softies and dodgy sprints, i'm just happily plodding away on my usual mountain climb commute. i've got and extra 400-500k in my legs this month. it's good. so taking it easy all week included a few more mountain climbs, NRsprints with Simon and the hardcore Aimee. a few fast laps around centenial with slowies, and a really tough track session thanks to all the women who come down!
Maybe when i say i'll take it easy befor a race i might do that next time.... (naw no way that's no fun)
Lap 1- I felt good! this whole gears thing is awesome! so i started the race off the front with tim. about a k in i peeled off and waited for my next turn on the front in the rotation. i also figured out how not to pull off and rotate around in the road! oops! the group soon got into a rhythm except every time i got to the front. i would give it a bit of a push and jum too far in the front. BTW the road were *censored*. it added to the fun.
hill climb 1. it was good. but changing down into a smaller gear not a good idea.
the first lap was good.
... and then the head wind.
Lap 2 felt like someone had come along and put the breaks on my bike. and i couldn't take them off. so instead of rotating around i sat on the back and relaxed. sorta. i was just hanging on. but didn't think i was in trouble.
hill climb 2. i thought it was a good idea to continue to sit back and take it easy with the bunch. bad idea. i ususally mash up hills on a big gear, like a sprint. my lack of spinnin ability on hills resulted in me using my granny gear and being dropped. and it was all over from there.
initiall i thought i could catch them. so i upped the speed and went really low into my drops and TT'ed it for 5k. no luck. then i realized the head win sucked. and sat up ate some food drank some water and really let my speed drop while i waited for the next bunch. also bad idea. i relaxed too much and my legs decided to weigh a about a f**k ton. the next group caught me and passed me. there was a bit of a mix up at the turn around with me and the car, and i well and truely lost the group.
Lap3. this was the longest 30k of my life. i'm used to riding on my own in the city on my commute, but on city roads there are cars to drag you along and traffic lights to stop and rest at. but i kept going i wanted to finish. iw as *censored* riding on my own. i loved it!
this was such a good ride. i made every mistake i could and i think(i hope) i will learn from them. i'm totally going to do this again.
...Hill climb 3. no comment. the croud had left, i was down in the smallest of granny gears, and i could hear a cow moo-ing at me for encouragement, althought i think he thought it was a joke.
by this time all the other dropped riders had quit and the course was being packed up. i was eventually caught by 2 other keen finishers. we did the final 6 mini hills to the finish(i felt fresh again riding with a group). it was such a good ride!
congrats to all the others who rode. and a big mention to tim who rode like a champ off the front to win King of the Mountain and it was such a shame you got caught.
such a good ride!
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The King of the Mountain is a great photo Timbo
There are lots of good DHBC shots, Matt, Mike, Peter.
What about the tongue hanging out climbing the hill by Charlie and Simon beside him. Classic...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roger_phil ... hotostream
What about the tongue hanging out climbing the hill by Charlie and Simon beside him. Classic...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roger_phil ... hotostream
Ken Dinnerville 29 May 2011 Race Report
The little village of Dapto nestled between the sea and a steep escarpment rising up to the Lake Avon catchment area is a picturesque semi-urban area on the fringes of Wollongong. It is best known for its dogs, of both the Dagwood and Greyhound variety. It is also known as the setting for the 87km Ken Dinnerville Memorial Handicap Race. The 54th Dinnerville was held on Sunday 29 May 2011, with 117 starters, including 11 riders from Dulwich Hill Bicycle Club. Not having any results to speak of (except a couple of second places in D grade at Heffron) the handicapper was kind to me and put me in the limit group, along with two other Dulwich Hill riders, club stalwart Peter O’Sullivan, and Canadian newbie Lizanne Wilmot. Also in our bunch was the veteran Illawarra Cycle Club rider Lionel Covington, a past winner of the Dinnerville, in 1980.
Thanks to a number of no-shows the limit bunch was smaller than I thought it would be. This was a worry, as on last year’s results we would need to average close to 36km/h for the whole course to stay ahead of scratch, and to do this we needed a core group of strong riders who would share the work up front and drive the bunch on. Soon out into the first of the three laps that loop through the beautiful peri-urban setting the bunch found a steady rhythm, with Lionel Covington, another ICC rider, and me doing most of the work up front. Lionel was really remarkable, frequently taking the lead and forcing the rest of us to keep up the pace. My trip computer gave up the ghost just before the start, and despite coming alive for parts of the race was mostly useless. So I couldn’t get a handle on our pace. How long before we were swamped by the groups behind?
By the time we climbed the back of Mount Marshall for the first time the limit group had warmed up nicely. There was surprisingly little talking going on, apart from the occasional ‘keep it together’ as we periodically got a paceline working. Although I had ridden the route before, I took the first descent pretty slow, as the placement of an Ambulance at the bottom of the hill clearly said take it easy. Then at the turn during the first lap at the Illawarra Christian School I wondered how long before we’d see the next bunch coming up. It seemed like only a few minutes when we passed them going the other way, and I thought we would have to get caught soon. But that was not to be. The pace stayed steady, and then was ratcheted up.
I was first up Mount Marshall on the first lap, but there were no heroics from anyone in the bunch. At the turn at the end of the first lap we were doing well, and passed the next bunch coming the other way. They hadn’t eaten into our lead. In the second lap there was a change of the guard up front, with Peter O’Sullivan doing lots of work, especially up Mount Marshall the second time. I stuck to his wheel and he pulled me over. The crowd was now a good size up at the top, with plenty cheering the local rider Lionel Covington on. Unfortunately we lost Lizanne on the hill, who wasn’t able to hold on. So then we were just six. Not many. Surely not enough to stay in front?
On the third I was feeling stronger than I had in the first two laps. The conditions were perfect. The breeze was still in the gullies, and occasional headwinds on the ridges and hills were hard to push into. But on turning around they became helpful zephyrs, willing us on. Coming up the gentle rise to the back of Mount Marshall I tested the group, to see if anyone could follow if I put my foot down, and then screamed down the descent first, and on to the rutted and cow-pat covered lane below. After the turn I positioned myself up front, behind Mireille Campbell from Sydney Cycle Club, who had started doing a fair few turns at the front, and I thought could have been a contender. She started the steep ascent of Mount Marshall fast in her big chainring, but then quickly slipped back. Then I remembered that the King of the Mountain beckoned, and I went as hard as I could. No one followed, and after a climb that seemed to go on forever and as the legs started to burn I rolled over the KOM painted on the road. Looking back I couldn’t see the rest of the group, and thought maybe, just maybe I could stay ahead for the rest of the race, and take out first.
Well that was wishful thinking. The climb had taken it out of me, and while I put my head down and tried to get into a steady rhythm, I could see the bunch getting closer and closer. Lionel Covington was not going to let me go. They caught me near the final left turn, and not long after that several bunches behind got us, including a team of women riders from the Canberra Cycling Club and the eventual winner, Sue Forsyth from Northern Sydney Cycle Club. They were fast, but it was now much easier riding in a big bunch that was pulling us along than it was when we were battling to stay ahead in our little limit group.
I did one or two stints at the front, wanting to make sure I was well placed when we went into the final straight on Cleveland Road. Then the pace really rose, and we went up and down the undulations that lead to the finish at the Dapto High School. There were maybe 30-40 riders in the group, all thinking they had a chance, and all trying to squeeze along what is not much more than a country lane. Riders started to fall back, or peel off left and right with cramps or exhaustion, and there were about 20 left right at the end. I saw Lionel Covington to my right make a move, and I decided to go for it, and tacked on to someone’s wheel. Then it was all over, and we were herded into the chute for our numbers to be taken and places called. What a great day’s racing.
And a great day for DHBC:
7th Stephens, Tim 2:31:19
13th Vesty, Amy 2:20:19
15th O’Sullivan, Peter 2:31:19
38th Clement, Michael 2:17:10
69th Lacey, Mark 2:18:04
78th Wallman, Matthew 2:13:19
81st Berry, Simon 2:28:29
87th Wilmot, Lizanne 2:38:44
93th Dale, Chales 2:35:43
Full results:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... ebsite.pdf
The little village of Dapto nestled between the sea and a steep escarpment rising up to the Lake Avon catchment area is a picturesque semi-urban area on the fringes of Wollongong. It is best known for its dogs, of both the Dagwood and Greyhound variety. It is also known as the setting for the 87km Ken Dinnerville Memorial Handicap Race. The 54th Dinnerville was held on Sunday 29 May 2011, with 117 starters, including 11 riders from Dulwich Hill Bicycle Club. Not having any results to speak of (except a couple of second places in D grade at Heffron) the handicapper was kind to me and put me in the limit group, along with two other Dulwich Hill riders, club stalwart Peter O’Sullivan, and Canadian newbie Lizanne Wilmot. Also in our bunch was the veteran Illawarra Cycle Club rider Lionel Covington, a past winner of the Dinnerville, in 1980.
Thanks to a number of no-shows the limit bunch was smaller than I thought it would be. This was a worry, as on last year’s results we would need to average close to 36km/h for the whole course to stay ahead of scratch, and to do this we needed a core group of strong riders who would share the work up front and drive the bunch on. Soon out into the first of the three laps that loop through the beautiful peri-urban setting the bunch found a steady rhythm, with Lionel Covington, another ICC rider, and me doing most of the work up front. Lionel was really remarkable, frequently taking the lead and forcing the rest of us to keep up the pace. My trip computer gave up the ghost just before the start, and despite coming alive for parts of the race was mostly useless. So I couldn’t get a handle on our pace. How long before we were swamped by the groups behind?
By the time we climbed the back of Mount Marshall for the first time the limit group had warmed up nicely. There was surprisingly little talking going on, apart from the occasional ‘keep it together’ as we periodically got a paceline working. Although I had ridden the route before, I took the first descent pretty slow, as the placement of an Ambulance at the bottom of the hill clearly said take it easy. Then at the turn during the first lap at the Illawarra Christian School I wondered how long before we’d see the next bunch coming up. It seemed like only a few minutes when we passed them going the other way, and I thought we would have to get caught soon. But that was not to be. The pace stayed steady, and then was ratcheted up.
I was first up Mount Marshall on the first lap, but there were no heroics from anyone in the bunch. At the turn at the end of the first lap we were doing well, and passed the next bunch coming the other way. They hadn’t eaten into our lead. In the second lap there was a change of the guard up front, with Peter O’Sullivan doing lots of work, especially up Mount Marshall the second time. I stuck to his wheel and he pulled me over. The crowd was now a good size up at the top, with plenty cheering the local rider Lionel Covington on. Unfortunately we lost Lizanne on the hill, who wasn’t able to hold on. So then we were just six. Not many. Surely not enough to stay in front?
On the third I was feeling stronger than I had in the first two laps. The conditions were perfect. The breeze was still in the gullies, and occasional headwinds on the ridges and hills were hard to push into. But on turning around they became helpful zephyrs, willing us on. Coming up the gentle rise to the back of Mount Marshall I tested the group, to see if anyone could follow if I put my foot down, and then screamed down the descent first, and on to the rutted and cow-pat covered lane below. After the turn I positioned myself up front, behind Mireille Campbell from Sydney Cycle Club, who had started doing a fair few turns at the front, and I thought could have been a contender. She started the steep ascent of Mount Marshall fast in her big chainring, but then quickly slipped back. Then I remembered that the King of the Mountain beckoned, and I went as hard as I could. No one followed, and after a climb that seemed to go on forever and as the legs started to burn I rolled over the KOM painted on the road. Looking back I couldn’t see the rest of the group, and thought maybe, just maybe I could stay ahead for the rest of the race, and take out first.
Well that was wishful thinking. The climb had taken it out of me, and while I put my head down and tried to get into a steady rhythm, I could see the bunch getting closer and closer. Lionel Covington was not going to let me go. They caught me near the final left turn, and not long after that several bunches behind got us, including a team of women riders from the Canberra Cycling Club and the eventual winner, Sue Forsyth from Northern Sydney Cycle Club. They were fast, but it was now much easier riding in a big bunch that was pulling us along than it was when we were battling to stay ahead in our little limit group.
I did one or two stints at the front, wanting to make sure I was well placed when we went into the final straight on Cleveland Road. Then the pace really rose, and we went up and down the undulations that lead to the finish at the Dapto High School. There were maybe 30-40 riders in the group, all thinking they had a chance, and all trying to squeeze along what is not much more than a country lane. Riders started to fall back, or peel off left and right with cramps or exhaustion, and there were about 20 left right at the end. I saw Lionel Covington to my right make a move, and I decided to go for it, and tacked on to someone’s wheel. Then it was all over, and we were herded into the chute for our numbers to be taken and places called. What a great day’s racing.
And a great day for DHBC:
7th Stephens, Tim 2:31:19
13th Vesty, Amy 2:20:19
15th O’Sullivan, Peter 2:31:19
38th Clement, Michael 2:17:10
69th Lacey, Mark 2:18:04
78th Wallman, Matthew 2:13:19
81st Berry, Simon 2:28:29
87th Wilmot, Lizanne 2:38:44
93th Dale, Chales 2:35:43
Full results:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... ebsite.pdf
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Good write ups Lizanne, Timbo.
I've come second in my bunch, 37th was also in my bunch. 5 of us in my bunch have managed to ride with Scratch.
Looking at the results Timbo, you were looking down the barrow of a gun, with Scratch hot on your heals
1st - 22nd 2h31m19s
23rd - 57th 2h32m30s
after that small groups of about 3 and individuals
So the bunch that I came in with, which included scratch was only 1m11s behind you. The handicapper has done a great job
I've come second in my bunch, 37th was also in my bunch. 5 of us in my bunch have managed to ride with Scratch.
Looking at the results Timbo, you were looking down the barrow of a gun, with Scratch hot on your heals
1st - 22nd 2h31m19s
23rd - 57th 2h32m30s
after that small groups of about 3 and individuals
So the bunch that I came in with, which included scratch was only 1m11s behind you. The handicapper has done a great job
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Not that we should read too much into the scratch result as it does depend a lot on what handicap bunch you were in, but according to my calculations (which could be wrong), I've dropped 8 places over last years scratch placing.
Scratch Surname
33 WALLMAN
48 CLEMENT
55 LACEY
59 VESTY
83 BERRY
87 O'SULLIVAN
89 STEPHENS
92 DALE
93 WILMOT
Scratch Surname
33 WALLMAN
48 CLEMENT
55 LACEY
59 VESTY
83 BERRY
87 O'SULLIVAN
89 STEPHENS
92 DALE
93 WILMOT
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Sorted by individual time. I can email you a spreadsheet if your curious.How exactly did you work this one out Mike?
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Argh, tongue shot: I worked so hard to keep it in on that climb.
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But anyway, account of my first race: an erratic start in the 2nd bunch off limit, caught at about 45km by the group behind, still feeling good, then squishy tyre around hairpin: slow leak, race over. In the 8 mins or so it took me to change the tube every group went past...
Not feeling good by the time I got back on the bike, enjoyed Lizianne (yes?) yelling "sucks riding alone" as she past me the other way, feeling crampy, stop for a cheeky water at the school, limp home, passing one (1) rider.
Not sure why I cramped, either not enough straight water (took all Gatorade), not enough training, or the fact I was riding a new bike (thanks Toff!) I've only done 100km total on.
Not feeling good by the time I got back on the bike, enjoyed Lizianne (yes?) yelling "sucks riding alone" as she past me the other way, feeling crampy, stop for a cheeky water at the school, limp home, passing one (1) rider.
Not sure why I cramped, either not enough straight water (took all Gatorade), not enough training, or the fact I was riding a new bike (thanks Toff!) I've only done 100km total on.
Here we go everyone. Footage of last 31 seconds of the race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg6q0flg ... ata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg6q0flg ... ata_player
Ah, Lizanne! Memories of my Ken Dinnerville. I felt strong, belted up that hill, kept with limit easily, jumped on other groups as they passed...everything was going great - it's just that most people were faster than me! But a beautiful country ride, even if you end up doing some of it alone (sans even spectators).
Great results everyone! What happened to you Geoff? And is it true the first 5 places went to ladies!!!?
Great results everyone! What happened to you Geoff? And is it true the first 5 places went to ladies!!!?
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Ken Dinnerval Race Report
Pre-race
- Determined that I had the same handicap as last year, figured that could only be good, as my fitness has improved and I won't be racing injured this year.
- Strawburger drove me down there in style fitting of an elite master rider.
- Discovered that I had 2 pairs of leg warmers and no arm warmers, also no socks.
- Then putting my bike together the front skewer broke. S* S* S*! Raced off looking for another one, lucky Lacey had spare wheels. Also lucky it didn't break while riding.
Race
Lap 1 - Bunch worked well together, LACC guy goes off the front, I jump the bunch to him but he's looking tired, decide to go back to the bunch
Lap 2 - Half the bunch not working, the LACC guy and I discuss tactics, decide to attack on the hill, take about 6 riders (including Lacey), but then we change our mind near the hill when we realise we are about to get caught. Lacey hits a bump and jolts sidewise towards me, we brush hands at 57kph. Gota love that road surface.
Lap 3 - Much of the combined bunch not working. A rider who hasn't managed to hold his line all morning moves sidewise just as Lacey is going past, decent side swipe but all stay upright. A couple of us power up the hill, bunch size shrinks. Scratch catch us just after the lefthand turn, the pace goes up but unlike last year, I have no problem with it and even have a turn on the front. Final hill after turnaround, we power straight over, I overtake a stack of riders, then I go off the front after 3 riders trying to breakaway, but they blow just before I get to them. I'm near the front and pick a wheel... wrong wheel I go around and sprint, but in the end I'm only second in my own bunch, beaten by the LACC rider. Though I did beat most of the scratch riders
Time wise, I was 3 minutes faster than last year. Result was about the same.
Overall handicapping was pretty good, only just over a minute separating the winner from 57th
Facts about Ken Dinnerval
- Strawbuger delivered me there in style
- The Sydney Uni Velo club handicapper should be shot
- The hill was smaller than last year
- You can't change a flat before scratch catch you
- Lizanne is no longer a road race virgin
- Peter Os met his objective of beating Lacey or Clement in a race in 2011
- Timbo needs to hide from Tbone
- Amy has better looking legs than the winner
- I had the best looking fingernails
Pre-race
- Determined that I had the same handicap as last year, figured that could only be good, as my fitness has improved and I won't be racing injured this year.
- Strawburger drove me down there in style fitting of an elite master rider.
- Discovered that I had 2 pairs of leg warmers and no arm warmers, also no socks.
- Then putting my bike together the front skewer broke. S* S* S*! Raced off looking for another one, lucky Lacey had spare wheels. Also lucky it didn't break while riding.
Race
Lap 1 - Bunch worked well together, LACC guy goes off the front, I jump the bunch to him but he's looking tired, decide to go back to the bunch
Lap 2 - Half the bunch not working, the LACC guy and I discuss tactics, decide to attack on the hill, take about 6 riders (including Lacey), but then we change our mind near the hill when we realise we are about to get caught. Lacey hits a bump and jolts sidewise towards me, we brush hands at 57kph. Gota love that road surface.
Lap 3 - Much of the combined bunch not working. A rider who hasn't managed to hold his line all morning moves sidewise just as Lacey is going past, decent side swipe but all stay upright. A couple of us power up the hill, bunch size shrinks. Scratch catch us just after the lefthand turn, the pace goes up but unlike last year, I have no problem with it and even have a turn on the front. Final hill after turnaround, we power straight over, I overtake a stack of riders, then I go off the front after 3 riders trying to breakaway, but they blow just before I get to them. I'm near the front and pick a wheel... wrong wheel I go around and sprint, but in the end I'm only second in my own bunch, beaten by the LACC rider. Though I did beat most of the scratch riders
Time wise, I was 3 minutes faster than last year. Result was about the same.
Overall handicapping was pretty good, only just over a minute separating the winner from 57th
Facts about Ken Dinnerval
- Strawbuger delivered me there in style
- The Sydney Uni Velo club handicapper should be shot
- The hill was smaller than last year
- You can't change a flat before scratch catch you
- Lizanne is no longer a road race virgin
- Peter Os met his objective of beating Lacey or Clement in a race in 2011
- Timbo needs to hide from Tbone
- Amy has better looking legs than the winner
- I had the best looking fingernails
Great report Mike.
I was happy with my race this year, I was thinking of pulling out on Sunday morning tho when i woke up as i felt pretty horrible, but 3 panadol and my stubborn attitude i got up, if it wasnt the Ken D i would not have got out of bed.
Last year i placed 52nd in a time of 2.31.32 in the second bunch to start - this year i placed 13th in a time of 2.20.19, in the third bunch to start. So a big improvement in one year of 11mins and back one bunch. Our bunch was not caught and eventually won the race, so we obviously worked well to stay out. Last years race i was dropped on the second lap up the big hill after a mega bunch behind us caught. The hill is still as hard as i remember, but this time it wasnt a race breaker.
Its great to see the women win a race outright as well.
I was happy with my race this year, I was thinking of pulling out on Sunday morning tho when i woke up as i felt pretty horrible, but 3 panadol and my stubborn attitude i got up, if it wasnt the Ken D i would not have got out of bed.
Last year i placed 52nd in a time of 2.31.32 in the second bunch to start - this year i placed 13th in a time of 2.20.19, in the third bunch to start. So a big improvement in one year of 11mins and back one bunch. Our bunch was not caught and eventually won the race, so we obviously worked well to stay out. Last years race i was dropped on the second lap up the big hill after a mega bunch behind us caught. The hill is still as hard as i remember, but this time it wasnt a race breaker.
Its great to see the women win a race outright as well.
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If the syd uni handicappers objective was to get them to train for the upcoming ITT then he did a good job
Pity you were sick Amy, it could of been yours on Sunday
Pity you were sick Amy, it could of been yours on Sunday
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