2011 Tour De France Chat thread.
Im checking out vids of Renshaw talking about this year, man I hope this year his headbutting is more succesful with the ref's. That lad is so nice! me and Simon met him at the grandprix in sydney after the race, and had a talk to him about his mum and racing RAW!
I cant wait to see some of these sprint stages go down!
Heinrich Haussler any one? http://www.heinrich-haussler.de/english.php
I cant wait to see some of these sprint stages go down!
Heinrich Haussler any one? http://www.heinrich-haussler.de/english.php
- Simon Llewellyn
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Tonights opening stage should a good one. It looks like it should bring out the climbers and I'm going to go with either Samuel Sanchez if the climbers hit out or Mattie Goss if it is not quite a climbers finish and the sprinters remain, for the win!!
- mcrkennedy
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Hi for those of you who do the Velogames Fantasy Tour I have created a DHBC mini league called DHBC
League Code: 02031723
http://www.velogames.com/index.php
League Code: 02031723
http://www.velogames.com/index.php
These are for Amy and her new found love for Cadel (or at least the bikes he rides)
@Camilla - Jo is excited (as am I), but it's early days. Cadel deserves some good luck for a change but I think that Schleck & Cheatador (trademark registered to Julian) are still the fav's.
@Camilla - Jo is excited (as am I), but it's early days. Cadel deserves some good luck for a change but I think that Schleck & Cheatador (trademark registered to Julian) are still the fav's.
@Tim - Cadel also has a different helmet to the rest of BMC - personal sponsors I guess. There was also some twitter chat about how the BMC TTT bikes may not be production (they look pretty 'rough') and may therefore not be legal, but that the UCI were only concerned about seat position ... but it could be BS of course. is there a rule around prototypes in cycling? I didn't think so. It's not like 'production' or even Superbike motorcycle racing where you have to build and sell a certain amount of bikes before you can race them.
Fairly boring stage 3 - surprised that Cav & Thor were relegated for that little bit of purse throwing at the intermediate sprint - the UCI is being pretty harsh - it was nothing IMO. Cav was definitely not pleased if his twitter stream was anything to go by and apparently Thor said he'd take all the blame but the UCI ignored him.
Final sprint was great to see a different sprinter and team get a stage victory - Garmin are on fire it seems and that's a good thing for us spectators. Renshaw has said that HTC blew it in that he got them to ride on the front too soon.
Should be an interesting night tonight.
Fairly boring stage 3 - surprised that Cav & Thor were relegated for that little bit of purse throwing at the intermediate sprint - the UCI is being pretty harsh - it was nothing IMO. Cav was definitely not pleased if his twitter stream was anything to go by and apparently Thor said he'd take all the blame but the UCI ignored him.
Final sprint was great to see a different sprinter and team get a stage victory - Garmin are on fire it seems and that's a good thing for us spectators. Renshaw has said that HTC blew it in that he got them to ride on the front too soon.
Should be an interesting night tonight.
Go cuddles go - team BMC are riding great and looking strong but Leopard Trek are looking cagey and I reckon we'll see some great racing this weekend. Also great ride from Thor indeed.
These great pics come from here >> http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2011/07/ ... y-stage-4/
These great pics come from here >> http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2011/07/ ... y-stage-4/
some sky analysis any one?
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/races/tea ... age-4.aspx
lol Loving that Shot stuart!
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/races/tea ... age-4.aspx
lol Loving that Shot stuart!
Haha yeah I love that photo Stuart! There's a (very) brief moment where you feel sorry for Contador, then the fist pumping for Cadel takes over! I just put it as the screen saver for my computer....
By the way, last nights stage was so awesome to watch! If you heard the interview of Cavendish after the finish, he made some comments about how the race organisers have changed the sprint rules to 'handicap' (quote) him and hist team? He said that the new rules mean that there are no more bunch sprints? Could someone please explain what he means?
By the way, last nights stage was so awesome to watch! If you heard the interview of Cavendish after the finish, he made some comments about how the race organisers have changed the sprint rules to 'handicap' (quote) him and hist team? He said that the new rules mean that there are no more bunch sprints? Could someone please explain what he means?
And he supposedly maxed out at 175 as well! I was really surprised by how low those numbers were. I know that my heartrate at threshold can vary by as much as 20 bpm depending on how fatigued I am but this early in the race I wouldn't have (of) expected the riders to be that tired. I'm guessing you're right, they're ridiculously fit and Flecha had another 20 bpm or so to give to be truly maxed out.Any Tim - that training peaks data says Flecha did that stage at an average heart rate of 115? Thats ridiculous!
These guys must be crazy fit...
Yeah, Goss needed another 5 or so metres of road. Still, nice for Sky to finally get a win and with the rumours suggesting strongly that Cav will be in black next year the other Sky sprinters need to stake a claim!Good sprint by Goss, but unlucky to get out of position on that last corner.
Nice shot of them riding past Mont St Michele
I like this one too from stage 5 of cuddles in polka dots
Le Tour Photo Sites: Here's some links to great photo's of the tour
http://blog.onev.com.au/ - this guys takes excellent shots and is the one who features on the cycling tips site as well.
https://picasaweb.google.com/BMCProTeam
http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/
http://www.cyclingfans.com/
and for some history, check out this 28 image Flickr set from The National Archive of the Netherlands of past Tours de France - no copyright!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nationaala ... 769456464/
like this one of Joop Zoetemelk en Eddy Merckx shaking hands in 1973
Got any more good ones?
http://blog.onev.com.au/ - this guys takes excellent shots and is the one who features on the cycling tips site as well.
https://picasaweb.google.com/BMCProTeam
http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/
http://www.cyclingfans.com/
and for some history, check out this 28 image Flickr set from The National Archive of the Netherlands of past Tours de France - no copyright!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nationaala ... 769456464/
like this one of Joop Zoetemelk en Eddy Merckx shaking hands in 1973
Got any more good ones?
Man, the carnage just keeps on coming and now the bog GC guys are at 2.30 ... pity that huge crash happened and I'll miss Vino, even though he should have been banned for life like all drug cheats.
The Hoogerland incident though, this is an outrage following the motorcycle incident. They should be charged, not just thrown off the tour. Cancellara tweeted "Watch this. cyclingnews.com/tour-de-france/stage-9/photos/181772 Is this right...?? I feel so sorry for johny. This is a scandal what happen"
I agree
Johnny Hoogerland (Vacansoleil-DCM) extracts himself from the barbed wire fence he landed on after being taken out by a French television car.
The Hoogerland incident though, this is an outrage following the motorcycle incident. They should be charged, not just thrown off the tour. Cancellara tweeted "Watch this. cyclingnews.com/tour-de-france/stage-9/photos/181772 Is this right...?? I feel so sorry for johny. This is a scandal what happen"
I agree
Johnny Hoogerland (Vacansoleil-DCM) extracts himself from the barbed wire fence he landed on after being taken out by a French television car.
Thats just terrible! Two riders crashed into by cars/motorbikes in a couple of
days? He is so lucky he wasnt killed. Have you seen the video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywP1M1LfCg
makes me sick...
days? He is so lucky he wasnt killed. Have you seen the video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywP1M1LfCg
makes me sick...
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Wow that's absolutely horrendous. That was one of the worst days in the history of the tour, winning the GC has become a war of attrition rather than ability. I think we are down to about 6 contenders as the rest have all broken bones or been concussed.Thats just terrible! Two riders crashed into by cars/motorbikes in a couple of
days? He is so lucky he wasnt killed. Have you seen the video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywP1M1LfCg
makes me sick...
I wonder how much of it has been the fault of the organisers in picking a dangerous route? Or is it nerves? or just bad luck?
That photo of Hoogerland made my jaw drop. It's still on the floor. I was watching the carnage last night and saw all the worst bits live. Riders being fished out of the bushes, Vino's leg obviously not in the right spot, Van den Broek & Willems out of it on the side of the road. But that incident with the car was bordeline criminal. Just astonishing. I knew Hoogerland had been ripped up but the full extent of it didn't get shown last night. Not that I saw anyway. Funny thing is that I was slipping in and out of sleep. When I woke up this morning I honestly thought (& hoped) that I must have dreamt it all.
Yes, Clenbutador seems to have had steak for breakfast, lunch & dinner on the rest day (nod nod, wink wink, say no more). I agree though that at last things have come alive and the next stages will really be interesting. You'd have to think that Friday's stage will really suit Clenbutador & The Schlek's with such a short run before the Alpe d'Huez (although the Col du Télégraphe couldn't really be called easy).
Cuddles still in it - come on son.
But the ride of the tour so far for me has to be this man
Cuddles still in it - come on son.
But the ride of the tour so far for me has to be this man
Why does Leopark Trek get a Merc? I though Skoda is the "best" team car for Proteams...
The Sag Wagon is, well, quite funny. There's one every day but here's today's - it's a MP3 podcast.
http://www.sbs.com.au/podcasts/Podcasts ... ay-20-July
http://www.sbs.com.au/podcasts/Podcasts ... ay-20-July
Stage 17 was full of fun and games and great to see Cuddles lose no time to Clenbutador, even though the Spanish Mafia are all lining behind him (or in front, to give him a wheel to suck).
Or as cadel said: Afterwards, the Australian explained that he was on Andy Schleck's (Leopard Trek) wheel when Contador launched his move over the top of the climb. "I think Voeckler put in the first attack and then Contador went," Evans said. I got caught behind Andy and I just couldn't get around him. They [Contador and Sanchez] had a bit of a gap, but fortunately we were able to close it on the flat."
Also, big up to person who left the gate to the parking spot open on that bend where Voeckler went off road the 2nd time - would have been a bad way for him to exit the tour. And look, there's Thor coming to help him. No, wait, it's just some di*k head wearing a world champion's jersey ...
Andy (and to a certain extent Frank) can't descend - that much is clear. he wants no more descending in the TdF - all mountain stages must only go up one Col or pass and must finish at the top. OK!!!
Here's today's photos
Or as cadel said: Afterwards, the Australian explained that he was on Andy Schleck's (Leopard Trek) wheel when Contador launched his move over the top of the climb. "I think Voeckler put in the first attack and then Contador went," Evans said. I got caught behind Andy and I just couldn't get around him. They [Contador and Sanchez] had a bit of a gap, but fortunately we were able to close it on the flat."
Also, big up to person who left the gate to the parking spot open on that bend where Voeckler went off road the 2nd time - would have been a bad way for him to exit the tour. And look, there's Thor coming to help him. No, wait, it's just some di*k head wearing a world champion's jersey ...
Andy (and to a certain extent Frank) can't descend - that much is clear. he wants no more descending in the TdF - all mountain stages must only go up one Col or pass and must finish at the top. OK!!!
Here's today's photos
gutted. that's all I can say. Voeckler has gone from hero to zero in my books after refusing to do any work on the last climb to protect the yellow, along with all those other wheel suckers.
As usual, Cadel just doesn't have a good climber to help him in the mountains. Great, great ride from cuddles though - much respect. I expect that it will be Frank attacking tonight. Suppose it will be years before we get an Aussie winner of the tour. sigh.
Sending all my bad karma (and I've got heaps) to the Schlecks.
As usual, Cadel just doesn't have a good climber to help him in the mountains. Great, great ride from cuddles though - much respect. I expect that it will be Frank attacking tonight. Suppose it will be years before we get an Aussie winner of the tour. sigh.
Sending all my bad karma (and I've got heaps) to the Schlecks.
The betting odds dont agree with you Stuart
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/cyc ... -de-france
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/cyc ... -de-france
Couldn't stay up last night due to being a bit crook but the party seemed to rage all the same. Pity the Foxtel box failed to actually record the stage so i don't get to see it (maybe there'll be a torrent soon). Great, excellent and gutsy ride from Cuddles. No matter the outcome, he is a legend of Aussie cycling. Oh, and great to see a Frenchman take a stage.
That chap was waving a pretend syringe. There's a quite a few people running along the side of the road that I would have liked to punch out if I was a rider. That must be pretty scary. Mind you, this guy probably helped to shift Clenbutador's focus off his ride.Clenbutador needs to watch the 'roid rage !
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Great, great result. I'm just so happy for Cadel. Pity I can't go riding this morning to celebrate.
Champagne tonight as we watch him roll into Paris in yellow.
(I was right to not be confident, 'cause when I am it puts a jinx on whoever I'm supporting ).
Champagne tonight as we watch him roll into Paris in yellow.
(I was right to not be confident, 'cause when I am it puts a jinx on whoever I'm supporting ).
Stage Win Was Possible
BMC Racing Team Directeur Sportif John Lelangue said he and Evans discussed taking a "stage-winning" approach to pull back the 57 seconds the former world road champion needed to take the overall lead. "That way, we had no pressure about the jersey or the GC," Lelangue said. "We could have actually won the time trial because we were within two seconds of Tony Martin in the last downhill, but I didn't want him to take too many risks. I actually had to slow him down."
BMC Racing Team Directeur Sportif John Lelangue said he and Evans discussed taking a "stage-winning" approach to pull back the 57 seconds the former world road champion needed to take the overall lead. "That way, we had no pressure about the jersey or the GC," Lelangue said. "We could have actually won the time trial because we were within two seconds of Tony Martin in the last downhill, but I didn't want him to take too many risks. I actually had to slow him down."
Saxo Back Fist!!Stuart wrote:
Clenbutador needs to watch the 'roid rage !
That chap was waving a pretend syringe. There's a quite a few people running along the side of the road that I would have liked to punch out if I was a rider. That must be pretty scary. Mind you, this guy probably helped to shift Clenbutador's focus off his ride.
Cadels press conference
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-e ... conference
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-e ... conference
Interview with Andy, I really like this guy after time trial
http://www.cyclingtribe.com/event/main/ ... -timetrial
http://www.cyclingtribe.com/event/main/ ... -timetrial
- JoTheBuilder
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I NEVER stay up on a school night... Looks like I have to make an exception!
Not sure about bikes, but BMC were selling a whole heap of last years replica team kits at the Bike show yesterday. I couldn't resist either at $80 for the bibs and jersey.It's all a bit too exciting really! Such a good thing for Australian cycling. Wonder how many bikes have been sold today...
Anyhow, what a great 3 weeks for Cadel and Aus cycling.
Cheers
Spiros
I find it interesting that BMC rode SLR01's for the entire tour, yet Cadel is holding an Impec up on that shot above. He also changed bikes back to his original one rather then ride the special yellow one for the final racing portion of the stage.
Yep and that Impec he is holding up is not even the one that he rode at the start of the stage. He rode the one that the old dude in the photo above it standing over on the left.I find it interesting that BMC rode SLR01's for the entire tour, yet Cadel is holding an Impec up on that shot above. He also changed bikes back to his original one rather then ride the special yellow one for the final racing portion of the stage.
- JoTheBuilder
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I think perhaps attitudes to cycling all round might take a turn for the better:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/tour- ... 6100802901
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/tour- ... 6100802901
This way, when they auction the bikes off, they can say, "as ridden by Cadel Evans in the Tour de France."Yep and that Impec he is holding up is not even the one that he rode at the start of the stage. He rode the one that the old dude in the photo above it standing over on the left.
Anyone else feeling the love a bit more from motorists on their commute? I got a smile, a wave and a thank you this morning from three seperate cars!
Don't think I will be buying a BMC kit. Sounds like they are on the road to becoming the next Giant.
Don't think I will be buying a BMC kit. Sounds like they are on the road to becoming the next Giant.
I got two "Go Cadel" from pedestrians yesterday, so I would like to think that it will have a change in motorist attitudes.Anyone else feeling the love a bit more from motorists on their commute? I got a smile, a wave and a thank you this morning from three seperate cars!
Don't think I will be buying a BMC kit. Sounds like they are on the road to becoming the next Giant.
James
Interesting Blog post from Robert Miller
http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert ... k-brothers
Why Evans beat the Schleck Brothers.
James
http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert ... k-brothers
Why Evans beat the Schleck Brothers.
James
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