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Postby othy » 14 Jul 2009, 22:26

So, want to hear something funny. My new Nitto track bars just arrived so I've been installing them on my bike. I decided to do a bit of maintainance (wipe down, chain lube, etc) while I was at it and noticed something interesting...

Remember back when I first returned to the track for this year, and my bottom bracket was loose. Well when putting my wheel back on, it has been flipped. Now, I had my old sprocket still on as it was impossible to remove. So for the last few months, I've been training and racing on...

86 inches. 48 x 15.

I was complaining to Christian at the omnium that I just couldn't get around as I was spinning out and had no jump left at pace. It all makes sense now.

Oh well, good spin training and has probably done me more good then harm.

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Postby orphic » 15 Jul 2009, 09:26

That's funny. I was actually wondering what gearing you were on as I watched you spinning around in one of your races on Saturday. I was going to ask but must have forgotten.

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Postby othy » 15 Jul 2009, 09:59

I would have told you 92 inches (48 x 14) and thought nothing more of it. Looking forward to trying out the "new" gearing. I thought I was spinning out in 92, so I purchased 49T & 50T chainrings with my new bars order, and they aren't cheap either. Guess they will have to wait as I readjust.

Makes me a bit happier with my flying 200 times at the omnium.

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Postby christian » 15 Jul 2009, 10:49

Interesting, this could mean you're now faster then me. This seems to be happening a lot lately, I think I need to train more.

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Postby Trouty » 15 Jul 2009, 11:37

Interesting, this could mean you're now faster then me. This seems to be happening a lot lately, I think I need to train more.
Or maybe get more sleep, and be on time when your leading the ride.

....I have to try and get as much mileage out of that as possible, even though you have only been late once.

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Postby Stuart » 15 Jul 2009, 12:53

Tell me, why do you measure the gearing size in inches and not centimetres?

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Postby othy » 15 Jul 2009, 13:08

Because the term comes from the size of a penny farthing wheel. On a modern track bike it doesn't really have any meaning at all apart from comparison point in gear selection.

If you wanted the metric term, it would be meters of development, which is how far the bike moves with 1 rotation of the pedals.

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Postby timyone » 15 Jul 2009, 21:39

man it was probably good training for you@@!! and you would have had one hell of a kick :D there was a bit where me and simon were on 90 and every one else on 94 or so at omniums of sorts, we both killed the kieran we had!!

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Postby othy » 15 Jul 2009, 22:55

Flipped my wheel. Felt faster, wish I could have participated in the 40 lapper, but I was adjusting my bars.

Looking forward to rolling out at RAW on friday night.

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Postby Toff » 16 Jul 2009, 09:44

Because the term comes from the size of a penny farthing wheel. On a modern track bike it doesn't really have any meaning at all apart from comparison point in gear selection.

If you wanted the metric term, it would be meters of development, which is how far the bike moves with 1 rotation of the pedals.
It's more complicated than that. These days we all ride on 700c wheels, but the protocol when quoting gear inches is to assume you are using a wheel with a 27 inch diameter. In Othy's post he said he was riding 86 inches (48 * 15), but thought he was riding 92 inches (48 * 14). If we use the correct wheel size, Othy's 48*15 gear was closer to 84 inches and his 48*14 gear is actually closer to 90 inches.

One reason we all talk in inches is because the chain pitch is in half-inches, so many calculations are easier in inches. For example, the circumference of any chainring in inches is half the number of teeth.
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Postby othy » 16 Jul 2009, 09:51

I don't think I've mentioned 88 inches anywhere.

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Postby Toff » 16 Jul 2009, 10:02

You didn't. I'm special, and I've amended the post.

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Postby Artson » 16 Jul 2009, 21:35

othy stick with your quote of 86 inches

I didn't read a word about crank length anywhere in Toff's post.

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Jul 2009, 20:30

There's a bit of confusion when it comes to inches, some quote a figure based on some unknown tyre size on a 27" wheel, we can call this "traditional inches" where others quote a gearing based on actual roll out.

Either way just ride the gear and its either too high, too low or just right.

What I find more interesting is gain ratio's


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