Race Weight

[timyone]

lol! man the continuos thing sounds right down your alley!!
If i was having trouble consuming what was recomended id probably see if i can get by on less, as every body is different.

[orphic]

Yeah I had borrowed one before for track racing and it was good, because it confirmed that track racing really does screw me u

With the food intake thing, you can get by on less for a few hours, but there comes a point where if you want to do anything over 8 hrs then you have to be eating right from hour one or you really risk blowing up. Unless it's really low intensity, like touring... Then you just eat because touring is about eating.

With the training your body to accept the food, it's more about training it to keep on metabolising and using that food. Lots of people get to a point in an enduro where their stomach just says no more, and they can't eat without throwing it back up.

[timyone]

hey i just created a thread about what to eat. Do you have links to stuff about what to eat during long training etc?

[timyone]

heres a video on this guys point of view on race weight.

http://video.competitor.com/2010/07/vid ... cent-rule/

he thinks that if you have an ideal race weight of 65, or 70 or what ever, you shouldnt go more than 8 percent above that in the off season etc, but that you dont need to be it all year around. He uses jan ulrich as an example of what not to do though, saying jan put on 20 pounds in winter, which may have caused him to never win a second tour. Until he said this i was interested, then i thought hang on if Jan put that much on!! that lad was a champ! he came second in the tour de france (under circumstances that now every one may have been on drugs, but yeah?!>)

[mikesbytes]

Down at the moment, I'll look later. I've been pretty steady on 76kg, happy with that

[mikesbytes]

"Energy Partitioning" Haven't heard that one before

Racing Weight: The Myth Of Frequent Eating

[Richard]

About to undertake a controlled experiment ..
1 month without booze and junk

Starting weight - 79.8kg
Target weight after one month of boredom and deprivation - 75-76.5kg
Target weight for Fitz's Challenge in October - 72-74.5kg

Simone has gone overseas for a month so its easier not to eat crap or drink a glass of vino over dinner
Only downside is that I cant do Waterfall because of having to look after the kids so will be reliant on the commute only for exercise

[mikesbytes]

Sounds quite achievable Richard. What are your current body fat levels like?

[Richard]

Mike
Current body fat levels are well topped up thanks.
A long standing love affair with Thai curries cooked in coconut milk, camembert and fois gras has ensured that.
Technically I am only 85% married, the other 15% has gradually accrued over the last 15 years.

Pity low fat camembert is so boring and tasteless and has the consistency of rubber

[Richard]

That was not meant to read as Thai curries cooked in coconut milk, camembert and fois gras. That would be a pretty gross combination.

Punctuation was never a strong point.

[timyone]

So richard, aim for low carbs, higher protein meals, less rice etc.

[Richard]

I am trying to eat fish at least 3 meals a week, avoid the temptation for 2nds and steering clear of the vino.

The other strategy to cut out the unnecessary calories is to always bring in my lunch.

Unfortunately with Simone away I can't do nearly as much exercise as I would like.

How hard are rollers?

[Rainbow]

How hard are rollers?

Sometimes it can take a little perserverance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2tF0tK7 ... ure=fvwrel

[Richard]

At least I would get plenty of exercise picking myself up from the floor

[orphic]

Ok, I'm joining in on this. I have like 2 months to shed some kg's. Not going to do anything stupid, just ride my bike and eat healthy food. Limit the carbs when I am not riding (so carbs before, during, after but smaller amounts at other times).

I find recovery rides are good for losing weight without tiring yourself. I can't really add extra training or I will just fatigue and I need to race still, so recovery rides are good.

Luckily I'm a big fan of meat and three veg (where the veg is over flowing the plate) for dinner, so it works. Just gotta say no to the chocolate

[T-Bone]

Luckily I'm a big fan of meat and three veg (where the veg is over flowing the plate) for dinner, so it works.

I like meat and 3 veg too, but it's usually the meat and potatoes that overflow the plate, the other veg has to squeeze in the gaps. Plus there's a requirement for a nice beer on the side.

Not much else i can add here, my weight remains stagnant.

[timyone]

Lol thanks for that info skinny James.. (T Bones knick name off the net, for any one that doesnt know him)
We can see that your struggle with obesity is hard fought, and it strengthens us all to hear your story..

[Richard]

Starting weight - 79.8
Week 1 weigh in - 78.0

I try to do the weigh in first thing in the morning after business, and before breakfast, to make it as standard a measurement as possible but I still find there is a reasonable daily variance

At this rate I'll look like Any Schleck by the time Fitz's Challenge comes around in October. Actually it was an eye opener when I went to the World Champs in Geelong last year. A lot of the pros were so thin that many looked unhealthy and emaciated.

[mikesbytes]

Good result Richard

[Richard]

Starting Weight - 79.8
Week 1 - 78.0
Week 2 - 77.8

Not much of an improvement compared to the first week but was ill for most of the time 'coughing up buckets' so no riding as well.

So far 2 weeks of no booze and crap food = 2 kilos

Damn I want a pizza washed down with beer.

[mikesbytes]

I struck a problem with monitoring my weight. At the gym where I weigh myself, they replaced the floor with a special soft floor and as a result the scales, which is sitting on the soft floor are giving a higher reading.

In the end, I've decided that its not the figure that counts but whether the figure is getting bigger, smaller or staying the same. So I've rebaselined myself at 77.0kg on those scales

[andrewb]

I struck a problem with monitoring my weight. At the gym where I weigh myself, they replaced the floor with a special soft floor and as a result the scales, which is sitting on the soft floor are giving a higher reading.

Mike, I suspect it's not the scale, but Heisenberg's uncertainty principle at work here.

As you would know from your work in quantum mechanics, that principle describes a fundamental limit on determining the product of momentum and position of an object (you in this instance). You've recorded in the Tour de Dullich thread your velocity down to an accuracy of 10^-32 m/s. And you stated here that your location was precisely at the gym when you were attempting to determine your mass.

So sorry mate, if you'd also been able to determine your mass (weight divided by gravitational acceleration) & hence momentum which is mass x velocity, you'd have been contravening the laws of physics.

Obvious, isn't it, when you think about it.

Andrew

PS - stick a flat piece of wood underneath the scale. The softness of the surface doesn't affect the weight per se - it's probably just interfering with the scale mechanism.

[mikesbytes]

It's not an issue, all it means that I can't compare my current figure with previous figures. Previously I didn't make adjustments when I switched from my light Sidi's to the heavier Lakes

[Richard]

After three and a half weeks of not drinking booze and not eating crap I lost three and a half kilos.

Followed by two weeks since Simone being back from Europe and eating out and drinking wine in the evening.

Its all back again.

Merde!

[mikesbytes]

LOL Richard

[mikesbytes]

I've dropped another kilo. I've weighed myself over several weeks to see it wasn't a blip, but I'm now down to 76kg on the rebaselined measure

[orphic]

Are you sure you aren't a 16 year old girl, Mike?

[mikesbytes]

Are you sure you aren't a 16 year old girl, Mike?

She told me she was 21

When I was 16 I weighed 68kg, but I weighed 61kg when I was 20.

I think I'm under eating

[timyone]

Vic you are tight casting mike, I know girls of all ages that talk like this about their weight.. come to think of it I'm not much different, though I am much more into the fact that I dead lift more than my little brothers weight (as its not an impressive weight to lift at all if I don't add meaning to it!).

On another note, I am adding a spiritual note to my training, after reading a book by a lad called king Solomon, a Hebrew king from close to 1000bc, called Ecclesiastes, in which he states that what ever you achieve you wont really be happy. He says instead that you should just enjoy the day to day work and toil that you have to do, I am sure he meant manual labor etc, but I am going with it for weights training. No more am I a body obsessed obsessed with becoming more muscley, but some one who just enjoys the toil of the gym I will never be happy with the results, but love the work out (similar with the racing really)

[shrubb face]

Vic you are tight casting mike....

*giggles*

[jimmy]

On another note, I am adding a spiritual note to my training, after reading a book by a lad called king Solomon, a Hebrew king from close to 1000bc, called Ecclesiastes, in which he states that what ever you achieve you wont really be happy. He says instead that you should just enjoy the day to day work and toil that you have to do, I am sure he meant manual labor etc, but I am going with it for weights training. No more am I a body obsessed obsessed with becoming more muscley, but some one who just enjoys the toil of the gym I will never be happy with the results, but love the work out (similar with the racing really)

Tim considering he is reported to have had 700 wives and 300 concubines, I think I know what he was getting up to day to day.

James

[Adrian E]

Tim considering he is reported to have had 700 wives and 300 concubines, I think I know what he was getting up to day to day.

*giggles*

[Richard]

He had an excuse for calling out the wrong name at the moment of .......

[timyone]

http://www.mydailymoment.com/diet_and_f ... php?page=1

[marc2131]

Find this thread hilarious.
Coincidentally my wife is horrified when i told her about this thread. She hates those anorexic mountain climbers on TdF. I jokingly told her I was aiming to get a body like that and she believed me!
Problem is that I use to be like that in my early 20s, and have the propensity to lose weight without my effort especially in tropical climes
Use to be 61kg at 18, but wait for it, was 6 foot 2 at the same time. So not a good look. Had a huge complex about this for years. If only I knew of its benefits to cycling up mountains!!?
Almost 30 years on I have put on a bit of weight, dont look so emaciated but have 25 extra kilos to haul up those ascents up to Waterfall. Would love to be 61kg again just to see how it feels up those hills, just for a day.
Marc

[mikesbytes]

The original purpose of this thread was to focus on power to weight ratio and how to manipulate your weight to achieve that.

With that done and dusted, the thread is now for whatever we want to put in it, Tim will keep us entertained

[Adrian E]

I had a hell of a shock a few months ago when I realised that I'd ballooned out to 84kg after months of not riding, being time poor, stressed and eating badly. So two months ago, I quit my annual train pass and returned to riding to work each day (which is 50kms a day) and I've been watching my diet. After getting back into commuting and completing Fitz's Extreme I'm back down to 81kg and am aiming to get back to the mid 70s by the end of the year. Yesterday onI my commute home I had an all too rare experience of feeling stronger as I powered over the gladesville bridge. Its amazing what a few less kgs can do.

[mikesbytes]

Adrian, you've decided to loose the weight slowly? that's about 800gms per month your quoting.

I've embarked on a general improvement of functionality and fully expect my weight to go up, at a guess I'll go from 77kg to 80 or 82kg

[othy]

I've gone from 70kg to 83kg since the accident. Most of it seems to be located on my midsection. Not sure how fast I'll lose it when I start exercising again..

Jerseys don't fit anymore, haven't tried knicks.

[Adrian E]

@ Mike, yes, slow and steady is the way. When I was 21, I went from 113kg to 73kg and it took me 12 months of absoulte dedication to take it off an keep it off (mostly swimming and diet). I know how to loose weight. My recent inflation is the worst I've had in a decade of maintaining my weight after that epic weight loss.
With your plans, it sound's like you're training to be sprint king : ) I've always been endurance focused so am not that interested in putting on weight!

@ Othy, I remember when you first started riding and you lost a huge amount of weight. Then your jerseys were falling off you. All I can say is, if you've lost it once, there is no problem loosing it again.

[mikesbytes]

Well my weight has been pretty stable over the year, but I think my gut is a fraction slimmer over the same time.

I've had thoughts about loosing a couple more kilos, which will be pushing the boundaries

[Strawburger]

Don't want to lose too much Mike!

So my wife reckons i weigh less than the cat at the moment and a good breeze will blow me away. Does that mean i'm at racing weight now?

[mikesbytes]

I'm thinking of targeting January, so I'll be adding Chrissie/New Year indulgence to the maths

[mikesbytes]

Considering I screwed myself for 2012, I was devising a strategy of weight loss and weight gain for the year.

But... this morning I weighed myself on my nominated scales, which is now 6am Friday mornings and I've lost weight .

On the 9th of Jan I weighed 78kg and now I weigh 75.5kg.

OK there can be some variation for hydration, but I'm a bit surprised at that figure

Now I'll have to rethink the strategy

[weiyun]

LA lost massive weight due to health issues but was able to take advantage of that in his come back. You'll do the same.

[mikesbytes]

I was thinking of starting my return by dropping to minimum weight and then building power while I put on weight. But now I'm wondering what minimum weight is

[weiyun]

You don't want to go to "minimum weight" nor needed. As an oncology patient, LA would have lost a lot of fat due to his chemo. You won't lose fat as easily during your recuperation though. Note also that given your body's need to "repair" itself, you shouldn't enter into any dramatic dieting regime at this point.

[mikesbytes]

I have no intention of doing anything until after my body is repaired

[timyone]

if we could get a group together, Ben (Liaznnes boy friend) can actually do one of those professional body fat analysis deals on us all for ten bucks each, with the fat calipers, and the computer program etc. Any one interested? (I don't know if I really want to know it these days! but it could be interesting to know it all!

[mikesbytes]

Would be useful info

[timyone]

Well the goal would be to get ten people or so to make it worth it for him

[Philip]

count me in if you get the numbers.

[mikesbytes]

Thought I'd dust off this thread

My weight fluctuated a few kilos and then it settled down at around 80kg

However I lost 2 inches of my waist, so while I was loosing fat weight I was putting on other forms of weight.

I don't think there's a hell of a lot of spare fat left to loose, perhaps a couple of kilos

[Nozzle]

I'd be keen for a pinch test if its still on the table.

[timyone]

If we got 5- ten people I think it can still happen, I'm slightly fat, do not entirely pumped for it right now!

[marc2131]

Riding with extra kilos builds up stamina and leg muscles.

[Philip]

Count me in if you need the numbers.

[mikesbytes]

That was a blast from the past, thanks for digging it up. Each of us in this thread had different objectives at that time, some of still have the same objectives and others different objectives.

For me there is no real reason to worry about loosing weight at this time of year. I am considering doing the world master games in April and may think about the lead up to that.

[timyone]

Lol I got a reminder for this. I'm almost 90 kilos! My little brother was just telling me I should look at my diet today!

[mikesbytes]

Just ride to work every day, via Robinson pie shop that is

[Strawburger]

That's an old thread alright. I think I've lost another 4kg since 2011!

[andrewm]

So does your wife rekon you weigh less than a goldfish now Strawbs?

[Strawburger]

Hahaha. I think my wife is used to my weight now. Doesn't mean she is happy with it though

[mikesbytes]

Its the trim ones that live to a ripe old age, Strawburger will still be around when the rest of us are pushing daisies

[timyone]

Yeah stomach fat and heart disease. I wonder if lypo would fix it...

[mikesbytes]

Blame it on the beer

[timyone]

Lol it is pretty much beer and chocolate!

[Eleri]

I caught 2 women measuring Strawburger's dimensions in a skin suit this morning. We all agreed he's skinny.