Dinnerville 2015 - entries open 9am tues 24march
You know you want to.
If you are thinking of doing a road race this one is great to try - if you can get an entry.
From CNSW:
Dear Riders,
Entries for the 2015 Ken Dinnerville Memorial Handicap are set to open at 9:00am next Tuesday 24th March 2015. Entries for this very popular event sell out in a matter of minutes so get in early and reserve your spot in the race before it inevitably sells out.
Keep an eye on the Cycling NSW website and social media pages over the coming days for more up to date information.
Kind Regards,
Cycling NSW
If you are thinking of doing a road race this one is great to try - if you can get an entry.
From CNSW:
Dear Riders,
Entries for the 2015 Ken Dinnerville Memorial Handicap are set to open at 9:00am next Tuesday 24th March 2015. Entries for this very popular event sell out in a matter of minutes so get in early and reserve your spot in the race before it inevitably sells out.
Keep an eye on the Cycling NSW website and social media pages over the coming days for more up to date information.
Kind Regards,
Cycling NSW
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Excellent. I've raced this one every year since I started racing, managed to not miss one, even the one where the entries only lasted about 6 minutes and I'll be eating breakie Tue 9am so almost a sure thing. Dougie and I can have a jolly good chat in the second half of the race
Just a place holder on CNSW http://nsw.cycling.org.au/Events-Result ... l-handicap Where is the entry itself?
Just a place holder on CNSW http://nsw.cycling.org.au/Events-Result ... l-handicap Where is the entry itself?
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I'm in, I've managed to get in every year since I started racing
There's a lot of entrants already, register now!
https://eventdesq.imgstg.com/index.cfm? ... rgID=20999
There's a lot of entrants already, register now!
https://eventdesq.imgstg.com/index.cfm? ... rgID=20999
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We can have a jolly good chat while Simon goes for KOMI am in. Again! why?
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In as well. I guess it is my turn to lead out Simon into the KOM?
bummed to miss this year!
I even had a call from James at Cycling NSW yesterday evening offering me early entry into the Ken Dinnerville.
At least someone from DHBC get the KOM - I think Andrew was outfoxed by a 70 year old last year ? Or may not have been Andrew, cant remember.
I even had a call from James at Cycling NSW yesterday evening offering me early entry into the Ken Dinnerville.
At least someone from DHBC get the KOM - I think Andrew was outfoxed by a 70 year old last year ? Or may not have been Andrew, cant remember.
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That sounds like you'll be inActually i'm the 3rd reserve if anyone pulls out.
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There's a handicap request email. I need to submit, my handicap was way too hard last year
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Here is an extract from the handicap request email:
To help the state handicapper delegate riders the most accurate and fair handicap, email your requested start bunch to nsw.entries@cycling.org.au..<mailto:nsw.entries@cycling.org.au>. Please provide a number between 1 (Scratch) and 10 (Limit) along with any additional comments that could help justify your request. While your request will be taken into consideration your final handicap will be determined by the state handicapper and may vary from your request.
Cycling NSW will be accepting start bunch requests until 8:30am Monday 18th May 2015. To avoid any disappointments it is strongly advised you submit your request by the closing date.
Note: Handicaps are strongly influenced by the state handicap data that is submitted to Cycling NSW by the clubs. If we do not have this data your handicap could vary quite significantly from your ability. It is recommended you talk to your club if you are concerned that they have not submitted this data."
Does anyone have experience with how best to reply, and how do i find out what state handicap data has been submitted?
John
To help the state handicapper delegate riders the most accurate and fair handicap, email your requested start bunch to nsw.entries@cycling.org.au..<mailto:nsw.entries@cycling.org.au>. Please provide a number between 1 (Scratch) and 10 (Limit) along with any additional comments that could help justify your request. While your request will be taken into consideration your final handicap will be determined by the state handicapper and may vary from your request.
Cycling NSW will be accepting start bunch requests until 8:30am Monday 18th May 2015. To avoid any disappointments it is strongly advised you submit your request by the closing date.
Note: Handicaps are strongly influenced by the state handicap data that is submitted to Cycling NSW by the clubs. If we do not have this data your handicap could vary quite significantly from your ability. It is recommended you talk to your club if you are concerned that they have not submitted this data."
Does anyone have experience with how best to reply, and how do i find out what state handicap data has been submitted?
John
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John, you would be in bunch 8 or 9 at a strong guesstimate.
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Alex, the club handicapper can adviseHey guys. Just got a call from CA. They have a spot for me, but they want to know how to handicap me. I came 5th in C grade at Rookwood.
Any help asap would be appreciated as they are finalising it all today.
THANKS!
How are you at climbing? A key point in this race is not getting dropped on the big hill, which we go up 4 times
Dinnerville handicaps have been published.
I'd like to take this opportunity to give a big 'good luck' to Paul Mason!
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/Portals/1 ... dicaps.pdf
I'd like to take this opportunity to give a big 'good luck' to Paul Mason!
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/Portals/1 ... dicaps.pdf
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Handicap review on the cards dougie and Paul? Speak to james f now!
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Get in quick, James F is a bit busy for the next few days... (Battle of the border).
Yes - please review! Objection, Your Honour! Third umpire? Video referee? Are you there? Where's James F? When will he pick this up? What's his number? Email? Social security number? Where does he live?
Group 9 (Limit) or 8 (at best) please!
Group 9 (Limit) or 8 (at best) please!
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So Paul could have swapped groups with you after all Craig...
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My first Ken Dinnerville, I wasn't sure what to expect. There was a good turn out from DHBC, lots of red guernseys in the start area.
Fairly happy starting in the next group from limit, the pace was cracking from the off.
We got ourselves organised and had a good paceline working. First time up Mount Marshall, (a little bump really) pretty comfortable and I felt good with the pace. The first half we managed to keep a steady gap to the bunch behind but the third time up the hill took it's toll and after the turnaround - 65 km in, we realised the following group had grown and was closing so we eased off and hoped to jump on the bunch.
Almost immediately I was surrounded by about 100 riders and some familiar faces, I managed to hang on to this faster bunch for about 5 km but when the course went uphill I was out the back, gapped and needed a cup of cement urgently. No tasty beverage was on the menu so I spent the rest of the race having a nice ride in the country.
Well done club mates, it was tough - Adam, Andrew, Dougie, James, John H, John M, Jonathon, Mark, Mike, Paul, Raphael and Simon.
Chapeau!
Peter
Fairly happy starting in the next group from limit, the pace was cracking from the off.
We got ourselves organised and had a good paceline working. First time up Mount Marshall, (a little bump really) pretty comfortable and I felt good with the pace. The first half we managed to keep a steady gap to the bunch behind but the third time up the hill took it's toll and after the turnaround - 65 km in, we realised the following group had grown and was closing so we eased off and hoped to jump on the bunch.
Almost immediately I was surrounded by about 100 riders and some familiar faces, I managed to hang on to this faster bunch for about 5 km but when the course went uphill I was out the back, gapped and needed a cup of cement urgently. No tasty beverage was on the menu so I spent the rest of the race having a nice ride in the country.
Well done club mates, it was tough - Adam, Andrew, Dougie, James, John H, John M, Jonathon, Mark, Mike, Paul, Raphael and Simon.
Chapeau!
Peter
This was my first Ken Dinnerville as well. I was pre-warned that this was no lower grade criterium, so I came with a rather cautious mindset.
Those preconceptions were reinforced when I arrived. All around me, proper athletes in skin suits warming up on their trainers, with their carbon bikes and speed wheels. I knew straightaway that I'd need to be on my toes more than a midget at the urinals.
I was in Group 8 - the same as Peter. An Illawarra CC rider gave us a brief team talk, and we were off. The pace was quick from the start. We organised ourselves into a pace line, and were moving with the rhythm of a marching band. Before long, we were climbing Mt Marshall - not much more than a pimple (akin to, say, Darley Road at Queens Park) - but enough to get the blood pumping.
A quick look at my Garmin revealed were averaging +35km/h: Fasties pace - quicker than I'd ever gone over any meaningful distance - and I wondered how sustainable this would be for +100km.
My legs were starting to feel heavy on the flats, and my heart rate was high. I started to miss turns at the front. I was only just hanging on. Credit to my bunch: they didn't exhort me to take a turn. When I could, I did. But every effort to do so hit me like a sledgehammer. I knew it was only a matter of time.
I lost my group ~35km in. My average speed dropped, and I could feel every bit of wind resistance. Before long, I was caught by Group 7. My spirits lifted immediately, as many of my club mates were in this group. They urged me to jump on, and I did. They all looked strong, and it felt good to be with them. This peloton was large, and we were humming along. But it started to string out over the undulating terrain around Mt Marshall, and I was caught at the back. It wasn't long before I fell off again, and I knew that, with 2 laps to go, my bunch riding was done for the day.
A few kilometres into the 3rd lap, and I could hear the drone of speed wheels behind me. The fast riders were coming. I was more vulnerable than a wounded gazelle in the savannah. The guy at the front of their pack roared at me to "get in the gutter". No dropped rider was to stand in their way. They flew past like a runaway bullet train through Yokohama. And I was glad to see the back of them.
The highlight of my remaining sojourn through the countryside was seeing my club mates riding strongly the other way. Peter was always at the front of whatever bunch he was in. If there was a prize for who actually led the race for the longest time, then Peter would've won it. Every DHBC rider that I saw was giving it their all. I was thrilled to see Adam Ward still with the lead group on the final approach to Mt Marshall. He was to finish very strongly indeed, along with Simon Berry, John Mason and James Rogers.
Special mention to Adam, who was the highest placed DHBC rider. He arrived at the venue late, dressed in loose-fitting trackies, looking more like he was about to share his morning with Barrie Cassidy and a cup of peppermint tea. But he raced like a champion.
For me personally, then, this was a lesson in humility. But to all of my club mates who took part, congratulations - you were superb.
Those preconceptions were reinforced when I arrived. All around me, proper athletes in skin suits warming up on their trainers, with their carbon bikes and speed wheels. I knew straightaway that I'd need to be on my toes more than a midget at the urinals.
I was in Group 8 - the same as Peter. An Illawarra CC rider gave us a brief team talk, and we were off. The pace was quick from the start. We organised ourselves into a pace line, and were moving with the rhythm of a marching band. Before long, we were climbing Mt Marshall - not much more than a pimple (akin to, say, Darley Road at Queens Park) - but enough to get the blood pumping.
A quick look at my Garmin revealed were averaging +35km/h: Fasties pace - quicker than I'd ever gone over any meaningful distance - and I wondered how sustainable this would be for +100km.
My legs were starting to feel heavy on the flats, and my heart rate was high. I started to miss turns at the front. I was only just hanging on. Credit to my bunch: they didn't exhort me to take a turn. When I could, I did. But every effort to do so hit me like a sledgehammer. I knew it was only a matter of time.
I lost my group ~35km in. My average speed dropped, and I could feel every bit of wind resistance. Before long, I was caught by Group 7. My spirits lifted immediately, as many of my club mates were in this group. They urged me to jump on, and I did. They all looked strong, and it felt good to be with them. This peloton was large, and we were humming along. But it started to string out over the undulating terrain around Mt Marshall, and I was caught at the back. It wasn't long before I fell off again, and I knew that, with 2 laps to go, my bunch riding was done for the day.
A few kilometres into the 3rd lap, and I could hear the drone of speed wheels behind me. The fast riders were coming. I was more vulnerable than a wounded gazelle in the savannah. The guy at the front of their pack roared at me to "get in the gutter". No dropped rider was to stand in their way. They flew past like a runaway bullet train through Yokohama. And I was glad to see the back of them.
The highlight of my remaining sojourn through the countryside was seeing my club mates riding strongly the other way. Peter was always at the front of whatever bunch he was in. If there was a prize for who actually led the race for the longest time, then Peter would've won it. Every DHBC rider that I saw was giving it their all. I was thrilled to see Adam Ward still with the lead group on the final approach to Mt Marshall. He was to finish very strongly indeed, along with Simon Berry, John Mason and James Rogers.
Special mention to Adam, who was the highest placed DHBC rider. He arrived at the venue late, dressed in loose-fitting trackies, looking more like he was about to share his morning with Barrie Cassidy and a cup of peppermint tea. But he raced like a champion.
For me personally, then, this was a lesson in humility. But to all of my club mates who took part, congratulations - you were superb.
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I was pretty happy with my ride. 3rd in the KOM and in doing so getting a breakaway formed for a few mins. Then on the reverse my Marshall, attacked again and was out on my own chasing the sole leader for over a minute before being reeled in as we approached the final straight.
All I need to do now is to get one of those breakaways to stick
It was a tough race, well done to all, especially those who finished.
All I need to do now is to get one of those breakaways to stick
It was a tough race, well done to all, especially those who finished.
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They might have to open the event sales closer to the actual event, that would ensure more starters rather than predicting fitness and having to pull out due to lack of fitness...
This also was my first Dinnerville (and first road race) and as Paul mentioned, I was not particularly prepared. Having only registered to be put on the waiting list 2 weeks ago, I was surprised to get a call the very next day. I had no idea which group to start in so I told them that I had just ridden in C grade at Rookwood. They entered that information into their random handicap generator and threw me in with all the B grade racers (Andrew M, John Mason, Raph , Michael C, John Healy!). Needless to say I was not feeling particularly confident at this stage and thought I would just treat it as a learning experience.
On the day Jonathan's Garmin fail (i.e. where the hell did I put it??) saw us running a little late and registering as one of the ladies shouted "four minutes till close". I rushed out to get dressed and put my transponder on upside-down with the uncut cable ties (and not a minute to spare for a peppermint tea). At the start line I finally had a minute to compose myself and we were off.
I had little idea how it would play out and had expected the groups behind to start catching us in the first 30 mins. As it turned out our rather large group lasted till the third lap before the snowballing group of 70 or so behind us caught us after a hairpin turn. I was still feeling ok at this point so jumped on the group along with the other Dulwich Hill guys in our group.
What I did find challenging in the peloton was that there was no room to pick your line so you had to ride at speed over which ever bumps were in front of you, of which there were LOTS! 5 minutes later I heard a fast clang clang clang in my front wheel, my transponder holder had slid down my forks dangerously close to falling into the spokes and my transponder was never to be seen again. With little other options I leant right down and pulled the holder pack into position where it stayed. After getting over that shock I took a drink only to hear that my bottle cage had a decent rattle which I today noticed had actually snapped in half!
The rest of the race went fairly smoothly with a bit of a push at the end to unexpectedly end up in top 20. A fun day out with a heap of Dulwich Hill mates which I'm sure won't be my last.
On the day Jonathan's Garmin fail (i.e. where the hell did I put it??) saw us running a little late and registering as one of the ladies shouted "four minutes till close". I rushed out to get dressed and put my transponder on upside-down with the uncut cable ties (and not a minute to spare for a peppermint tea). At the start line I finally had a minute to compose myself and we were off.
I had little idea how it would play out and had expected the groups behind to start catching us in the first 30 mins. As it turned out our rather large group lasted till the third lap before the snowballing group of 70 or so behind us caught us after a hairpin turn. I was still feeling ok at this point so jumped on the group along with the other Dulwich Hill guys in our group.
What I did find challenging in the peloton was that there was no room to pick your line so you had to ride at speed over which ever bumps were in front of you, of which there were LOTS! 5 minutes later I heard a fast clang clang clang in my front wheel, my transponder holder had slid down my forks dangerously close to falling into the spokes and my transponder was never to be seen again. With little other options I leant right down and pulled the holder pack into position where it stayed. After getting over that shock I took a drink only to hear that my bottle cage had a decent rattle which I today noticed had actually snapped in half!
The rest of the race went fairly smoothly with a bit of a push at the end to unexpectedly end up in top 20. A fun day out with a heap of Dulwich Hill mates which I'm sure won't be my last.
That's weird. I finished just behind Raphael and I was a DNF. I'll ask the race organisers to record me as a WTF instead.
i saw that too john and was wondering if you decided to ride on the grass and BEHIND the van / sensors for some reason...
Short report on my behalf: loved it, didn't perform but loved it! When do the registrations open for the 59th edition?
See you there Adam Ward you weapon!!!!
Short report on my behalf: loved it, didn't perform but loved it! When do the registrations open for the 59th edition?
See you there Adam Ward you weapon!!!!
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