NSW Individual Time Trial Championships 25th July 2010
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I've entered
From the info, it appears to be on last years TT course, 20k for masters, 43k for elite.
I've entered
From the info, it appears to be on last years TT course, 20k for masters, 43k for elite.
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So its a bit of a sprint, I better make sure my 11t is engaging
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Anyone know what the time split was between the leg out and the return leg?
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So rough average speeds of 34kph out and 41kph back, 7kph differenceRough times from my data:
Lap1: Out: 32.11 Back: 27.01
Lap2: Out: 33.22 Back: 26.55
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I didn't see them checking the bikes at the NSW TTT
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They were deemed to be aerodynamic winglets
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This is a real chance for the Lady's to take medals. Each age category is shown separately.
And its downhill...
And its downhill...
I can't seem to figure out via bikely how they are making up the 19km's? If you are starting at Central Mangrove where in Somersby is the finish line?
If I deem it to be downhill enough and manage to convince Christian he is a time trailist (might need some help there), then I'll enter. Just for a bit of fun. I wish I could wear a moustache
If I deem it to be downhill enough and manage to convince Christian he is a time trailist (might need some help there), then I'll enter. Just for a bit of fun. I wish I could wear a moustache
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I've had a stab at how I understand the profile, based on the NSW TTT profile map
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Camilla, you body has great aerodynamicsNot for me! There are 6 ladies in my category already and only 2 of us don't have additional sponsorship. Plus I prefer uphill.
Wot's the context of a moustache here? I have massive as a jungle, and I don't ride no vintage bike. No one told me it was inappropriateYou have to ride a vintage bike, otherwise it's innapropriate.
I'm sure it'd look good on you, tho'...
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orphic is just jealous cos she can't grow oneWot's the context of a moustache here? I have massive as a jungle, and I don't ride no vintage bike. No one told me it was inappropriate
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G, we need to know the start times before committing to lifts. Hang in there mate
I'm with Julio. The smugglers were always a bit of fun G, and in the past entertaining to see where they have popped up in the photos and websites. But would be nice to see you in normal bottoms when you have the red jersey on. Good luck at the TT.Short answer black knicks and club shirt....keep the smugglers for when you are representing yourself and not the club.
Julio is spot on - DHBC club kit is black knicks and a DHBC jersey .... this has the advantage that members can buy any type of knicks they like (as long as they're black) rather than there being DHBC "branded" knicks, as people generally like different types of knicks and it cuts cost.why black knicks? Why not pink knicks?
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Entries close tonight
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The other direction would of suited you better
I just received this email from cycling NSW
You must wear the appropriate knicks.
Kind Regards
Linda Hamwi
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Cycling NSW
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Linda.hamwi@cycling.org.au
Start times have been posted
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/cy_nsw/ra ... .htm#Start
Not so happy about the alphabetical order thing. That means I only have a fast girl and some U19 males to chase!
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/cy_nsw/ra ... .htm#Start
Not so happy about the alphabetical order thing. That means I only have a fast girl and some U19 males to chase!
haa haa ... Just noticed that more than half of the Elite DHBC guys racing are called Timothy! Can we call the Elite team "Team Timothy?"Start times have been posted
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/cy_nsw/ra ... .htm#Start
Not so happy about the alphabetical order thing. That means I only have a fast girl and some U19 males to chase!
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I've got transportation challenges
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Dam, I had Brownie to chase and now I've got Geoffrey Baxter. Oddly while all the riders have moved around, I've stayed on exactly the same start time.I just noticed my original time has now changed, as have others - so it may pay to wait until the times are announced by CNSW as finalised before locking it in.
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Did you catch it off Christian?Aaah I think I'm getting sick. NOT a good time!
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I don't think they are in perceived performance order, as in MMAS4 they have Geoffery Baxter near the beginning and Eddie Sales near the back.My aero bars arrived today, hopefully get some time on them before Sunday. Have the start times been reorganised by handicap?
its a state title, we need to be in club kit, or you need to get what you want to wear made official, and i think that costs a bit, they dont let you wear budgy smuglers though, the cycling is a lot stricter than the triathlons in a lot of ways, with bikes they are stricter too, you can ride some crazy stuff in triathlons!I just received this email from cycling NSW
Aero bars are installed, saddle changed, one of my bottle cages removed. Position is ok, but not great, for first TT with little experience it will have to do - could spend months trying to set it up.
Decisions to make:
Long sleeve or short sleeve skin suit?
Gloves or not?
Where is the best point in the course to have a spew?
Decisions to make:
Long sleeve or short sleeve skin suit?
Gloves or not?
Where is the best point in the course to have a spew?
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Is there anyone who can give me a lift?
If you get them....then I better get them. The problem is Cam, we haven't had any practice on aero bars....I reckon at this late stage it may slow me down through my own instability than add any speed to my performance.Goody. I get to go first in my group and chase the young'uns, with all those multi-sponsored ladies of my own age group hot on my wheels. This isn't going to be embarrassing at all!
Anyone got some aero bars lying about that I can borrow?
This is just silly. Othy, I and Tim are starting within 4 min. Wot if we quickly catch eachother and do a team time trial and smash everyone in our age group? I know it will be unfair, but is it illegal in cycling? Are there any non drafting rules in these individual time trials?
Camilla, I have aerobars you can borrow.
Gi, No drafting allowed, you will be DQd.
3.41.08 Racing Procedure
1. If one rider is caught by another, he may neither lead nor follow in the
slipstream of the rider who caught up.
2. A rider when catching another shall leave a lateral gap of at least 2m
between themself and the caught rider. After 1km, the caught rider
shall ride at least 25m behind the other.
3. If necessary the attending Commissaire shall force the caught rider to
leave the 2m lateral gap and the distance of 25m, and the penalties as
provided for in rule 3.41.10 may be applied.
4. Riders may not provide assistance to one another.
You can view the rules yourself HERE
Gi, No drafting allowed, you will be DQd.
3.41.08 Racing Procedure
1. If one rider is caught by another, he may neither lead nor follow in the
slipstream of the rider who caught up.
2. A rider when catching another shall leave a lateral gap of at least 2m
between themself and the caught rider. After 1km, the caught rider
shall ride at least 25m behind the other.
3. If necessary the attending Commissaire shall force the caught rider to
leave the 2m lateral gap and the distance of 25m, and the penalties as
provided for in rule 3.41.10 may be applied.
4. Riders may not provide assistance to one another.
You can view the rules yourself HERE
25m???! These anti drafting rules are stricter than triathlons. I like it that there are rules to bust the cheatersCamilla, I have aerobars you can borrow.
Gi, No drafting allowed, you will be DQd.
3.41.08 Racing Procedure
1. If one rider is caught by another, he may neither lead nor follow in the
slipstream of the rider who caught up.
2. A rider when catching another shall leave a lateral gap of at least 2m
between themself and the caught rider. After 1km, the caught rider
shall ride at least 25m behind the other.
3. If necessary the attending Commissaire shall force the caught rider to
leave the 2m lateral gap and the distance of 25m, and the penalties as
provided for in rule 3.41.10 may be applied.
4. Riders may not provide assistance to one another.
You can view the rules yourself HERE
Hey if your going to use aero bars it may be good to do some sorta training with them first, come on saturday slowies and use them a bit (you three did the team time trial with out them?! at least the rider on the front should have had them each time?! they make an absolutely massive difference?!)
G, your not allowed to be sitting within like 20 metres of the ride in front or some thing like that.
G, your not allowed to be sitting within like 20 metres of the ride in front or some thing like that.
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I predict that the DHBC master's average times will be well in excess of the DHBC elite's average times
Theoretically, yes. I think I just comply although my knees can hit my bars when I'm out of the saddle. You can get five centimetres dispensation for special circumstances e.g. you're a 6 foot 5 freak riding a 61cm frame. I'm relying on that dispensation if my measurements are out. From memory your saddle tip needs to be 5 cm behind your bb centre as well. Practically I haven't seen them measure bikes at either NSW pursuit or the NSW TTT, although I have seen the jig they use set up at Dunc and it's pretty cool.Ok, so I've just been reading about this 75cm from BB to end of bars?
Is this applicable?
You should be able to fit within these guidelines anyway. Your best bet for the odd TT is finding a position that best approximates your position when riding in the drops. Anything else will probably just compromise your output without serious tweaking and testing.
Well elite is me, g and Tim. G is used to riding about 180km, on top of a massive run and swim, Tim is just back from injury, and ive only just ridden a road bike this week and last week.. hmmnn not a great start. Then to add to this, we do double your distance.. hmmnnn Id be happy to compete with you for average speed mike, but think over all we will get hammered.I predict that the DHBC master's average times will be well in excess of the DHBC elite's average times
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I predict my average speed will be 3kph faster than you TimWell elite is me, g and Tim. G is used to riding about 180km, on top of a massive run and swim, Tim is just back from injury, and ive only just ridden a road bike this week and last week.. hmmnn not a great start. Then to add to this, we do double your distance.. hmmnnn Id be happy to compete with you for average speed mike, but think over all we will get hammered.
Thanks Matt. I'll do some more tweaking on the trainer tonight. I've been trying to make the position somewhat on the relaxed side - I ride a fair bit in the "ghost" aero bar position so I think I can make it work. 75cm just seems incredibly short for anyone over 6ft.Theoretically, yes. I think I just comply although my knees can hit my bars when I'm out of the saddle. You can get five centimetres dispensation for special circumstances e.g. you're a 6 foot 5 freak riding a 61cm frame. I'm relying on that dispensation if my measurements are out. From memory your saddle tip needs to be 5 cm behind your bb centre as well. Practically I haven't seen them measure bikes at either NSW pursuit or the NSW TTT, although I have seen the jig they use set up at Dunc and it's pretty cool.
You should be able to fit within these guidelines anyway. Your best bet for the odd TT is finding a position that best approximates your position when riding in the drops. Anything else will probably just compromise your output without serious tweaking and testing.
Whats a respectable average speed to aim for on this course - for those who have done it?
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My guessWhats a respectable average speed to aim for on this course - for those who have done it?
Elite - 36kph
Masters - 39kph
mike why are you comparing people that are riding double the distance of you? the masters have matt walman too, and alex chubb isnt elite, and he would have been our fastest. Are we including all the masters riders? Id say it would be much more useful to let the elite riders ride as far as you, then compare it? i dont see any more point than making it seem that the masters are fasterm, when in fact itsnot comparing people that are riding the samne event even. Let me race you over 20km mike id be much better at it right now.
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Come on Tim, you might be riding twice the distance but your half the age of Lacy and yours truly.
Jokes aside, the nature of the course will suit some riders over others
Jokes aside, the nature of the course will suit some riders over others
yeah, but i havent ridden on the road in the l;ast 4 months, well ive been in two road races that i lasted 5km each. I dont stand a chance. Come race me in A grade raw if you want it to be more even, i havent been training for it either, butit would suit me more.
It's because they're using a different course to previous years, most people should have known anyway, as it's the same course as the team time trial was. It's a harder course as well, so 36.8km is plenty.
Most of the people? Meh... it is poor communication on behalf of cycling NSW.
Is it a single lap or 2lap course?
so even if i was fit i wouldnt stand a chance against mike on average speed!! lol ok mike im still trying to beat you, but it sounds impossible :S as it actually was before, as im so unfit, but it was good motivation, now im still trying, but umm yeah..
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